RW Alberto wanted Hasay to wear a wetsuit at Boston 2018 and other fun stuff

She was an adult . Her maturity level had nothing to do with NOP.

“Alberto, if you ask me is he obsessed about weight? Yes, but he’s obsessed about everything,” she said.

This is a good point. The thing with him and weight though is that it kind of proved he was off as a coach. In the Clean Sport interview Mary Cain said he was surprised she could run a certain time at her weight. She was doing well just left alone.

He should have taken the evidence in front of his face and lightened up on the concrete number.

She was definitely a teen girl and a people pleaser, like she admits on the podcast. Someone older and more confident would've pushed back. Like Jordan didn't seem to have cut much hair at all. I kind of agree on him about the drag. A bob would be freeing.

mwh wrote:

wetsuit is actually an interesting idea for those conditions

Olive oil would work much better, and without the excess weight and restrictions.

dunes runner wrote:

mwh wrote:

wetsuit is actually an interesting idea for those conditions

Olive oil would work much better, and without the excess weight and restrictions.

I don't think excess weight was ever really a problem for Olive Oyl.

Kind of looks like she's wearing an early version of VaporFlys there.

Best female runner ever has just spoken wrote:

he wanted me to wear a wetsuit in the Boston Marathon.

Big if true.

The high expectations really should be on Alberto Salazar since you are counting on him for your training. The fact that you don't at least question if he is the right coach for you with the kind of judgment to seriously ask you to wear a wetsuit during the Boston is on you.

Reminds me of Anne Audain's coach -- the one who wanted her to eat only potatoes.

Getting sick of this narrative that has been perpetuated by Hasay that it was NOT a story of an abusive coach but rather of a fragile teen who couldn't handle the professional atmosphere.

--Screaming at her saying that she gained five pounds at a meet in front of everyone

--Criticizing ALL female athletes saying "I don't care about science, I care about what I see on the starting line". Criticizing athletes saying they had the 'biggest butt on the starting line'.

--Giving her diuretics and birth control pills to lose weight.

--naming 114 pounds to as race weight despite no proof it would help her run faster

I could go on.

But no one at ANY age should be subject to this. Alberto was a terrible coach who abused athletes to make up for his faults.

Not to mention that Canadian who wants to get rid of the mile. Sheila something or other.

oinae wrote:

Getting sick of this narrative that has been perpetuated by Hasay that it was NOT a story of an abusive coach but rather of a fragile teen who couldn't handle the professional atmosphere.

--Screaming at her saying that she gained five pounds at a meet in front of everyone

--Criticizing ALL female athletes saying "I don't care about science, I care about what I see on the starting line". Criticizing athletes saying they had the 'biggest butt on the starting line'.

--Giving her diuretics and birth control pills to lose weight.

--naming 114 pounds to as race weight despite no proof it would help her run faster

I could go on.

But no one at ANY age should be subject to this. Alberto was a terrible coach who abused athletes to make up for his faults.

You’d go on and on and on anyways, regardless. Too closed minded to acknowledge that AS treated MC like a pro athlete and she couldn’t handle it.

doctorj wrote:

Let it Rupp wrote:

Ahhh I can read the headlines now "Nazi Hitler Coach Forces Female Runners to Starve Themselves and Shave Their Heads."

Ahem, China already had one...Ma Junren. Google him, he was sadistic, makes Salazar look like a choir boy.

Have you guys seen the video where he's on a motorcycle and pulls one of the women down because she's just too slow? It'll leave you a bit appalled, but you might accidentally laugh too if you aren't careful.

Hasay tore 2 of the three hamstrings in her leg and she expects to run Feb 29th? Good luck with that! I did the exact same thing and it took 2 months of PT and 4 months of rebuilding.

Haha, gotta love Hasay. She doesn’t shy away from Al Sal’s jerk tendencies, but she obv still digs his coaching style. I get the impression that Hasay and Rupp get along so well with him because they have similar personalities. Al Sal just takes things to extremes while they are a bit more practical. But to someone like Mary Cain, Al Sal probably seems like a bit of an alien creature and vice versa. Hasay doesn’t seem to have any problem saying “Get the f outta here with that” when Al Sal goes full OCD on her. But that would probably be too much to expect from a teenager with a quiet personality like Cain.

But he feels better about himself after his outburst to signal his “outrage”.

oinae wrote:

Getting sick of this narrative that has been perpetuated by Hasay that it was NOT a story of an abusive coach but rather of a fragile teen who couldn't handle the professional atmosphere.

--Screaming at her saying that she gained five pounds at a meet in front of everyone

--Criticizing ALL female athletes saying "I don't care about science, I care about what I see on the starting line". Criticizing athletes saying they had the 'biggest butt on the starting line'.

--Giving her diuretics and birth control pills to lose weight.

--naming 114 pounds to as race weight despite no proof it would help her run faster

I could go on.

But no one at ANY age should be subject to this. Alberto was a terrible coach who abused athletes to make up for his faults.

Did Cain herself even claim that this happened? I am aware that Cain claims that Salazar suggested that she take diuretics and birth control pills, but you are saying that Salazar actually gave her the drugs. Is there any evidence to support this claim?

Because screaming at someone that they gained five pounds in front of an entire meet is "treating someone like a pro athlete"

If you've ever ran from T1 to T2 in a wetsuit, you would know that this idea is absolutely insane. A cycling gilet and thermal tights would be a much better idea.

oinae wrote:

Getting sick of this narrative that has been perpetuated by Hasay that it was NOT a story of an abusive coach but rather of a fragile teen who couldn't handle the professional atmosphere.

--Screaming at her saying that she gained five pounds at a meet in front of everyone

--Criticizing ALL female athletes saying "I don't care about science, I care about what I see on the starting line". Criticizing athletes saying they had the 'biggest butt on the starting line'.

--Giving her diuretics and birth control pills to lose weight.

--naming 114 pounds to as race weight despite no proof it would help her run faster

I could go on.

But no one at ANY age should be subject to this. Alberto was a terrible coach who abused athletes to make up for his faults.

Here is the truth.

But this site is full of alsal excuse mongers.

That is nothing, boomers used to run marathons in jeans.