"late in career"? She is still in high school. Concern troll. Also she had down time in the summer and has not peaked yet. She is very likely to have faster times for years ahead.
"late in career"? She is still in high school. Concern troll. Also she had down time in the summer and has not peaked yet. She is very likely to have faster times for years ahead.
i do not know who this person is and cannot predict her running career in the future, but i just want to spit out some facts for ya'll:
1) high school success often times do not translate to professional success
2) many of the top high school runners already run 80+ miles per week. somebody who is maybe 20-30 seconds slower than this girl but runs 50 miles per week may catch up to her in a few years
3) girls hit puberty before guys so she doesn't have as much room for improvement than if she was a guy.
donairs wrote:
"late in career"? She is still in high school. Concern troll. Also she had down time in the summer and has not peaked yet. She is very likely to have faster times for years ahead.
I don’t know where you got your stats on “very likely”. She is already breaking the odds.
She is still doing very well and I am expecting her to be the first 3X winner of NXN.
If she continues to progress in College, it’s a blessing. We all wish that she does.
I can confirm that Katelyn initially ran the short version of the course. But after about 100 meters, she turned back around to complete the full course. She likely ran 3.15-3.2 miles. Katelyn Tuohy’s progression indicates that she is the next Tirunesh Dibaba.
Lol ny.milesplit.com says 4500m, or 2.79 miles. Short course, fast times. The equivalent of about 17:10. But all that matters in XC is your place in the field, so...
if you look in "completed" view mode on ny.milesplit, it is written as 2.85 AND 4500m
I was at yesterday's races and have been at the last three NYSPHAA XC Championships. Here are a few observations.
The course itself was between 2.85 and 2.9 as others have noted. There was a spot where the ice posed too great a risk so they decided to change the course. The best alteration would have made the course slightly over 3.1 and the officials were adamant that this was not allowed so they went with the second alternative which shortened the course.
The course itself is quite flat and considered to be a fast course. In my opinion it is a bit of a remedial course and not really ideal for an event of this magnitude even in the best of conditions.
In any case the weather as it turned out really was not a factor. Though it was 15 degrees for the first race at 9 AM, the Boy's Class A, it was perfectly sunny and no wind. None of the runners seemed phased by the cold as they were inside until nearly the start of each race. The biggest issue for the runners was the narrowness of the course due to it needing to be plowed out just in order to make the race possible. Several of them spoke about getting "stuck" in packs as it was tricky to pass others.
By the time Tuohy ran at 11:30 AM the course was even better than earlier as it softened up just a touch but did not swampy like Wayne two years ago. In my opinion although she is far superior to her competition she seems to not be running with as much confidence as last year- that's just speculation but I have noted she looks around and behind her more frequently. The simple reality is she is just a much better athlete than virtually all if not all of the others- it's not just her training.
The race of the day was the Boy's Class D where Lewis took Kempney in the last 100M in a race that was a dogfight all the way between these two rivals. Their times were the second and third fastest overall.
I thought the Saratoga girls simply were out competed by FM and really should have won that race.
Always check the speed ratings as well as the times.
Not sure with the conditions and race distance but good to hear that she is back.
Fasttuohy wrote:
Phoebe White beating Kurto and Haleigh Morales beating all of Saratoga except Kurto also were surprises and helped.
True. FM’s strategy was to have their top 3 go out hard and show Kurto she couldn’t go out with them . That swung a couple points FM’s way. A fun team race to watch.
Her time only is equal to a 165 speed rating, which at the ocean state invite is only 16:30s; she ran 16:0x a year ago
Hounddogharrier wrote:
thedisciple315 wrote:
Biggest news of the day and possibly the most noteworthy development of the year in American HS girls cross-country 2019 is that FM finally finally developed a 5th runner (Lucetti Speed Rating 122). NXN championship a real possibility now.
Lucetti won that race for FM . She hung on to Toga’s 4 and 5 for dear life and was deep in the pain cave for the last 2 miles but didn’t crack . The question is can she do it twice more?
If these speed ratings translate to race conditions in Portland, yes both Saratoga and FM look to be right up there at NXN, though on paper Summit looks just a little faster as a team. but that is still 3 weeks away. Saratoga is running in the Federation I believe so we shall see how they do next week. Hopefully Tuohy goes fairly easy there and saves her best efforts for Regionals and then Nationals. As of now weather looks pretty good for the 23rd at Bowdoin (if 40 F but no rain or snow is pretty good).
Hate to burst your bubble wrote:
Her time only is equal to a 165 speed rating, which at the ocean state invite is only 16:30s; she ran 16:0x a year ago
yes, but that was perfect conditions going for time, this race was pretty much survival and don't fall down (and guts). She seems like a very tough kid.
The course was 3.0 miles. Stop it...
Let's calm down people. The course was short.
Tully Runners has given her a 165 speed rating. The speed rating compares times across courses. 165 is very good for a woman but as of 2015 years ago, there were at least 20 HS girls performances in history at 165 or higher as shown in the following article:
http://www.tullyrunners.com/articles/HighNationalSpeedRatings.htm
Whatever you think of the time, distance or speed rating in this race, just like last year she was faster than at least 75% of the boys who ran the same course on the same day. Last year at NXN she would have beaten at least one runner on every team except Temecula, and some folks say that was an off day for her. What is the point in overanalyzing?
Quite simply some absolute loser weirdos on this site, madness.
She tempo runs the state meet and destroys the top girls in the nation and you guys are talking about course length.....jeeez
greenliner wrote:
Is moran like a letsrun joke, or do people not know it is actually spelled moron? And is not a word to be used anyway? Or is that the same poster who cannot spell it posting under something like 20 different names?
It's an on going joke. Trust me.
Hate to burst your bubble wrote:
Her time only is equal to a 165 speed rating, which at the ocean state invite is only 16:30s; she ran 16:0x a year ago
Sydney Thorvaldson of WY for the upset win next month.
Letsrun melts to the core of the earth.
LetsRun.com wrote:
Let's calm down people. The course was short.
Tully Runners has given her a 165 speed rating. The speed rating compares times across courses. 165 is very good for a woman but as of 2015 years ago, there were at least 20 HS girls performances in history at 165 or higher as shown in the following article:
http://www.tullyrunners.com/articles/HighNationalSpeedRatings.htm
She didn't have one of the top 20 performances ever? Rojo has got to be sick with worry.