Katelyn Touhy 15:36!!!

high school xc coach wrote:

MaybeNot wrote:

These are some of the best ranked girls in the country. They guys results were very normal. No one broke 14:30. That makes me think it might be the right length.

The fastest guy of the day took 1:10 off from when he ran the same course in september. He has consistently run 187 speed rating all year. He is the same runner now as then.

The course is very short. We ran the course friday night. It was Just shy of 3.1. Then later that night, they communicated to us that they were taking a section out that ran around a softball field. This section of the course was very close to 500 meters. FACT

I was there 10 years ago- I know what part you're talking about- it was raining then and people were falling at that spot.

Blazing Slow Poke wrote:

The conditions were far from ideal, but it was a flat, fast course with poor footing in some areas. Here are two photos I took of Tuohy on snow/ice during the race.

https://imgur.com/TD5RC4Dhttps://imgur.com/7ls6guX

A coach who was there told me that when the Boys A and B races went off it was very cold, by the time of the Boys D and Girls races it was up to 35.

exrunner wrote:

Jogger Hobby wrote:

She looks like a 400m runner here. Is she a senior now?

Are you another skinny girl fetishist?

I bet u not would call Katelyn skinny to her face. She would probably literally kick you to death with her powerful legs of steel.

A reporter who was there said it was 23 which is what the forecast was for when the girls races when off. It was likely high teens when the first races went off.

high school xc coach wrote:

course was 2.8 miles. 2.85 at most. 100% They took around a 500 meter section out.

By satellite it's 2.96, basically, it is a legit 3-mile course. I have measured quite a few XC courses and the only way to get it exact is when you designed the course yourself and you personally race the course you designed. Most courses are off a little and in most cases they are short because runners aren't trying to run the exact course, they are looking for the shortest version of the course. Again, this is about as legit as most 3-mile courses and if you want be absolutely precise, you could adjust by a few seconds.

Tuohy looks strong...she is obviously putting some time in the gym. It would be nice to see someone give her a real push at NXN, but I just don't see that happening. And thats not knocking any of the other top runners . ..I think the likes of Hart, Starliper, Ewert, Walters, Rauber, Masciarelli (yes, I know not all are running NXN) are all great runners with strong college potential...but KT has been on another level for the last two years and is not giving anything back.

I am impressed with this girl on the track/course, but more so off. She has had alot of attention (rightfully so) but seems to have stayed very focused and true to herself. She doesn't appear to be seeking attention or platitudes at any point.

My opinion only...but I think her coach and family have done a great job supporting her, and that she has handled her success with great maturity. Good on her and hopefully continued success.

high school xc coach wrote:

course was 2.8 miles. 2.85 at most. 100% They took around a 500 meter section out.

Lmao no it’s not I ran the race it was 3.124

lol@ by satellite.

So i guess the course was gonna be 3.25 then?

anyway, ny.milesplit has it as 2.85 on their results.

But if it makes people feel better to call it an almost legit 3 miles, go for it.

fastTuohy wrote:

A reporter who was there said it was 23 which is what the forecast was for when the girls races when off. It was likely high teens when the first races went off.

This is all correct.

it was high teens to low 20s the entire day. Sunny and calm. Much better than the 31, wet, windy and cloudy we ran at qualifiers the week before.

Hahahahha wrote:

high school xc coach wrote:

course was 2.8 miles. 2.85 at most. 100% They took around a 500 meter section out.

Lmao no it’s not I ran the race it was 3.124

lol.

Here's an early guess at how the NXN individual race will play out. Tuohy, Thorvaldson, and David will take it out fast. Hart, Dudek, Walters, Rauber and Masciarelli will be the chase pack. Tuohy wins going away, and an epic battle takes place for second with Brooke Rauber the surprise in 2nd place. Promises to be a great race.

high school xc coach wrote:

lol@ by satellite.

So i guess the course was gonna be 3.25 then?

anyway, ny.milesplit has it as 2.85 on their results.

But if it makes people feel better to call it an almost legit 3 miles, go for it.

I stand corrected.

I know the guys at ny.milesplit and if they say it's 2.85, it is probably pretty close to that.

Btw, satellite measurements if done correctly are fairly accurate as long as there aren't a lot of turns.

ny guy wrote:

Here's an early guess at how the NXN individual race will play out. Tuohy, Thorvaldson, and David will take it out fast. Hart, Dudek, Walters, Rauber and Masciarelli will be the chase pack. Tuohy wins going away, and an epic battle takes place for second with Brooke Rauber the surprise in 2nd place. Promises to be a great race.

basically agree except I think neither Dudek or Masciarelli will be there. Dudek has some other commitment and I thought Masciarelli was going back to FL (I guess she could accept and invite though). Add Ewert to the chase pack, though both she and Walters need to think about team race too.

Biggest news of the day and possibly the most noteworthy development of the year in American HS girls cross-country 2019 is that FM finally finally developed a 5th runner (Lucetti Speed Rating 122). NXN championship a real possibility now.

TrackCoach wrote:

high school xc coach wrote:

lol@ by satellite.

So i guess the course was gonna be 3.25 then?

anyway, ny.milesplit has it as 2.85 on their results.

But if it makes people feel better to call it an almost legit 3 miles, go for it.

I stand corrected.

I know the guys at ny.milesplit and if they say it's 2.85, it is probably pretty close to that.

Btw, satellite measurements if done correctly are fairly accurate as long as there aren't a lot of turns.

ya. im not completely dismissive of satellite. it works well on my home course. i think this would have been a very difficult course to get close in that manner.

anyway, its xc. the only thing that matters when it comes down to it is how the runners fared relative to their competition. It was an impressive day by many runners. And now im left questioning how much of an affect 20 degree, calm, sunny conditions have on max speed. Probably varies by individual. This course definitely did have a fast running track through the majority of it.

Tuohy is still doing great, so late in her career. She posted a 168 speed rating this season. Not as fast as she was as a soph or as a junior, but still much faster than she was as a frosh. Many people did not think that she could hold it for so long, but she is proving them wrong.

Hope that she wins NXN again this year.

thedisciple315 wrote:

Biggest news of the day and possibly the most noteworthy development of the year in American HS girls cross-country 2019 is that FM finally finally developed a 5th runner (Lucetti Speed Rating 122). NXN championship a real possibility now.

Lucetti won that race for FM . She hung on to Toga’s 4 and 5 for dear life and was deep in the pain cave for the last 2 miles but didn’t crack . The question is can she do it twice more?

Phoebe White beating Kurto and Haleigh Morales beating all of Saratoga except Kurto also were surprises and helped.

I have no words! WOW! That is actually about 4.5 words! Like when people say "No Caption Needed". That is a caption!