BREAKING - Kara Goucher attacks Ken Goe on Twitter. Denies him interview request

coco_loves_ice_t wrote:

Exactly. I'm not a huge fan if anyone involved. That said, to call Ken Goe a "journalist" or "reporter" is very generous. Guy shills like no other.

The only thing better is Rojo defending the guy's journalism. Like rojo knows anything about journalism.

Really dislike her!!!!

Oiselle out in full force wrote:

webby wrote:

Kara has been roundly lambasted for years for her "hysterical" complaints about NOP and Salazar. Now that NOP has been disbanded and Salazar has been suspended for exactly what she complained about, her detractors have found new reasons to discredit her and justify their unfounded hostility.

Why would anyone in her position grant an interview to a biased journalist with a history of writing Salazar puff pieces? Because the New York Times had low editorial standards? Come on rojo. Don't embarrass yourself.

Looks like the Oiselle shills are out in full force today. Do you guys get paid by the hour?

As opposed to all the Nike shills who are on salary.

We live in interesting times where social media shifts things to weird levels.

1. If you want to do do professional athletics, there is nothing healthy about that. It doesn't matter which coach you choose.

2. If you don't want to be coached by Alberto Salazar, don't get coached by Alberto Salazar. I don't think anybody joined the program without consent.

People like to get the paychecks from Nike, but they don't like to deal with the consequences. Yes professional athletics is brutal and only a couple of athletes make it out unharmed. That's just how it is always has been.

I agree with this. Ken Goe presented facts and enough backstory to give a clear picture of the allegations. He included a response from Salazaar without providing his own commentary or analysis. That is what journalists are supposed to do, not be talking heads. I don't think anything he wrote was irresponsible.

There are some who are a part of this discussion act as if anyone who shows anything but 100% contempt for Salazaar is evil. Even if they present facts. I think there has been enough evidence mounted against Salazaar at this point that most people aren't jumping to defend him or Nike on this. He is entitled to his own defense and journalists are entitled to publish what he says while not showing an unfair bias towards anyone party.

kjakjsjdkj wrote:

Ken needs to demands answers on Kara/Adam on thyroid meds before going to NOP, Adam being documented as being sent to Dr. Brown by Wetmore while at CU (and being the one who brought Dr. Brown and Salazar together), and why later, after leaving NOP, it was in retrospect suspect that everyone else (of not them) were on thyroid meds.

https://www.letsrun.com/news/2017/05/usada-appears-highly-likely-6-nop-athletes-including-galen-rupp-dathan-ritzenhein-violated-anti-doping-rules/

PS. One final interesting anecdote from the report that really surprised us. Alberto Salazar only found out about Dr. Jeffrey Brown because University of Colorado coach Mark Wetmore recommended him to Adam Goucher. From Adam Goucher’s email: “My coach, Mark Wetmore, recommended that I contact you. He has sent an athlete to see you before and says that you are the best Endocrinologist in the country.”

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HOW are more people not talking about this aspect? And Jenny Simpson is on the pills as well. As someone with an eating disorder I am definitely on the side of Mary and think Salazar is scum but I cannot ignore the hypocrisy. Same with Steve magness and his inappropriate behavior with young girls. I’m glad they’re speaking up but they can’t select what they want to be truthful about and expect respect from anyone.

No one cares about Kara Goucher or her opinion. She’s no longer relevant. She immediately lost credibility when she presented an EMPTY pill bottle and then tried to say that she didn’t take what was in it. Riggggghhht.

Ken Goe's body of "work" over time show that he very much is biased. That has been pointed out many times on this thread.

God, American running is so much drama. It's all camps and cliques and who's friends and not. If only they'd be this entertaining on the track.

i support building a time machine to bring the boards back to 2013. give me back lorenzo the magnificant, ventolin ^3 ("moron"), and others.

brojos have allowed this forum to become 4chan

Might it be true that for many people they will run fastest when they are on the edge of being unhealthily thin? Salazar doesn’t seem to be the only coach who thinks so.

That has certainly been the case for me. And one of my biggest difficulties in training has always been the weight aspect. Perhaps if I’d have had a sterner coach who could help me tackle that more seriously I’d have run faster.

There seems to be a basic misunderstanding going on here where people think that being a top distance runner is meant to be a ‘healthy’ goal. Maybe for some it is, but for many it appears to be an extremely difficult, physically taxing, unnatural process. That’s a large part of what makes it impressive.

webby wrote:

Kara has been roundly lambasted for years for her "hysterical" complaints about NOP and Salazar. Now that NOP has been disbanded and Salazar has been suspended for exactly what she complained about, her detractors have found new reasons to discredit her and justify their unfounded hostility.

Why would anyone in her position grant an interview to a biased journalist with a history of writing Salazar puff pieces? ...

exactly.

Wow trollism much?

You don't have a family and have nothing so there you go? She should go spend time raising her fam? Dafaq is wrong with you?

To the other kara bashers - clearly she's relevant if she's got you hating pretty hard.

El Keniano wrote:

God, American running is so much drama. It's all camps and cliques and who's friends and not. If only they'd be this entertaining on the track.

I always assumed there was drama in running circles everywhere. Is it different in Kenya?

Planet of the Apes wrote:

No one cares about Kara Goucher or her opinion. She’s no longer relevant. She immediately lost credibility when she presented an EMPTY pill bottle and then tried to say that she didn’t take what was in it. Riggggghhht.

I had forgotten about this, but that was an absolute joke. And I don’t believe that was his writing either, if he was giving her something illegal/shady why write what it was in huge letters??? That makes absolutely no sense, especially since he sent rupp things in a carved out book.

Planet of the Apes wrote:

No one cares about Kara Goucher or her opinion. She’s no longer relevant. She immediately lost credibility when she presented an EMPTY pill bottle and then tried to say that she didn’t take what was in it. Riggggghhht.

If no one cares then why are there already 60 posts on an interaction she had last night?

Nah nah nah nah wrote:

Tired of the hypocrisy.

Salazar apologized. Let the man do that. All this gotta stop. The issue is real and needs work and we’re just going for blood instead of trying to change things.

Carefull with that line of thinking. People got banned here for making less sense than that.

I agree that Goe's story is fair on its own. I also don't doubt Kara and others feel they can't trust him and that he's in Nike's pocket, based on a pattern of coverage.

Also, rojo, you can't compare Goe's story and Cain's Times piece. The latter was clearly labeled as opinion. It's not a reported article, while Goe's story is. Journalism 101.

I agree that Goe's piece on the interview with Salazar is unobjectionable, but also concur with the opinion that his body of work shows that he can't be trusted to be objective about Nike..