In Rojo’s piece he states Cain is one of the highest paid female athletes in America. Can’t believe she would even be close. Maybe one of the better paid distance runners?
In Rojo’s piece he states Cain is one of the highest paid female athletes in America. Can’t believe she would even be close. Maybe one of the better paid distance runners?
Yes her parents take good care of her.
For women running is the best paying professional sport.
WNBA players are lucky to get anywhere near $100k, most are making half that. There are a few very high paid tennis players and some golfers with Serena Williams making millions, but there is no rich softball league, women's football league, or financially strong women's hockey league. Only the multi-olympic gold medal gymnasts or swimmers will strike it big. But women runners are paid as much or more than men's runners. There are more American women distance runners on contracts than American men. (this is likely because the women have recently had more athletes capable of finishing well at the world level than American men) There are women runners on contracts of well over $100k and then prize money on top of that. Since Cain was in the 1500 final at 2013 world championships and one of the best in the world at such a young age I'd think her contract could have easily been around $200k per year and then made more through things besides her prize money and Nike contract.
Not many women making a couple hundred thousand from a sport.
*stipe wrote:
In Rojo’s piece he states Cain is one of the highest paid female athletes in America. Can’t believe she would even be close. Maybe one of the better paid distance runners?
I think he was probably right if you’re talking in the past which he was. Very few female athletes in America make a quarter million dollars a year. Considering what Alan Webb got paid coming out of high school and the fact Cains agent is Ricky Simms (Usain Bolt’s agent) , it’s fair to assume if she was in the low to mid 6 figures she’s one of the highest paid female athletes in America I think. Anyone else agree?
I was looking at deleted threads and restored this one. Topic seems fine to me.
my guess is that she made 150k/year. at the end of the day, her appeal was so limited (this is a niche sport and few track athletes are really capable of driving sales for any product) and the way nike pays its track athletes is still heavily performance-based that i doubt she was making mid six figures.
She was best high school runner ever and had options.
Agents average guess was she was making 275,000 a year when we asked them
*stipe wrote:
In Rojo’s piece he states Cain is one of the highest paid female athletes in America. Can’t believe she would even be close. Maybe one of the better paid distance runners?
I'd be shocked if Cain didn't make at least 250k per year during her prime. Remember, the agents estimated to us that she made $275k per year.
The highest official maximum WNBA salary for veteran players in 2018 was $113,500. Only 21 women on the LPGA have made over $250k this year. Only 20 US women have made over $250k this year in pro tennis.
That pretty much leaves soccer right? Whole teams in the women's soccer league only are paid $650,000, most making less than $50k. Yes the women's world cup team members made more than $250k this year but that's what 20 women?
I don't see how Cain wasn't easily one of the top 100 highest paid American female athletes when she was at her peak.
https://www.letsrun.com/news/2018/09/pro-runners-salaries-much-professional-runners-make-unveil-one-sports-biggest-secrets/wejo wrote:
She was best high school runner ever and had options.
Agents average guess was she was making 275,000 a year when we asked them
It is important to remember that a lot of times you are paying for potential as much as performance. Lock up Cain for say 4 years/1 million dollars and you hope to get a bunch of stories during the next trials/games. And if you hit the lottery, maybe she is charismatic enought to sell some shoes/clothes to a bunch of high schoolers. Wheating would be another example of this. Guy coming out of college had made an olympic team and had run some blistering times. It was pretty easy to imagine him as a guy you would see (and given how tall he was, he would be seen) him in every US/World event for the next 4+ years.
And maybe it is because I am not paying enough attention, but doesn't it feel like most of these companies are totally wasting the promotional possibilities of most of our elite runners? Where were the nike ads talking about no american winning the 1500m and him going, I just did it. Or New balance pimping out Simpson.
How much money do you think Mary lost for Nike based on actual salary paid, opportunity to support existing successful athletes and those in the future and extremely bad PR for the company that could further cut Nike budget for track. Was this the worst Nike track investment of all-time?
The americans sure love their Galen Rupp!!!!
Such a nobody in the grand scheme of things however.
Nike is fucking brutal to women ( and men) when they stop performing. A lot of their contracts are performance based. And if you stop winning races WITHIN A YEAR, odds are your income is more than halved, even quartered the next two years. Perks are the new apartments across the street from HQ and the free physio/healthcare/shoes/justin whittaker Active Release miracle workery. There was one year Alberto had everyone drinking Beet Juice because it “increased your performance by 3%”. I doubt Mary cain made very much money at all based on her performances. Did nike maybe pay some tuition at Up? Maybe.
(Please dont give my IP address to Alberto/nike you ****heads)
So, if I am reading your comments right, you actually have no idea how much she made. This is all conjecture and designed to do what, exactly? Throw shade on her? Why?
Anonymous ex OP affiliate wrote:
Nike is fucking brutal to women ( and men) when they stop performing. A lot of their contracts are performance based. And if you stop winning races WITHIN A YEAR, odds are your income is more than halved, even quartered the next two years. Perks are the new apartments across the street from HQ and the free physio/healthcare/shoes/justin whittaker Active Release miracle workery. There was one year Alberto had everyone drinking Beet Juice because it “increased your performance by 3%”. I doubt Mary cain made very much money at all based on her performances. Did nike maybe pay some tuition at Up? Maybe.
(Please dont give my IP address to Alberto/nike you ****heads)
Is this different in other sports? Is this different in other performance based occupations?
The expectation for what nike is supposed to do for individual runner's is just weird. They are not charity. (though they kind of are...anything running related is probably very low profit for them) They should not be just expected to burn money out of the kindness of their hearts.
Agreed, although I get there seems to be some general confusion between a 'sponsor' and 'employer' and in fairness, there does seem to be some crossover with some of the Nike deals (i.e; base yourself in Oregon, do as this coach states, train only with this group etc?).
Anonymous ex OP affiliate wrote:
Nike is fucking brutal to women ( and men) when they stop performing. A lot of their contracts are performance based. And if you stop winning races WITHIN A YEAR, odds are your income is more than halved, even quartered the next two years.
Yes, everyone knows this, but it doesn't follow that it would be the same for a teenager who was being signed for her long term potential. Cain was not remotely in the same category as the average pro runner. She was in the Sydney McLaughlin category--a likely crossover superstar.
wejo wrote:
*stipe wrote:
In Rojo’s piece he states Cain is one of the highest paid female athletes in America. Can’t believe she would even be close. Maybe one of the better paid distance runners?
I think he was probably right if you’re talking in the past which he was. Very few female athletes in America make a quarter million dollars a year. Considering what Alan Webb got paid coming out of high school and the fact Cains agent is Ricky Simms (Usain Bolt’s agent) , it’s fair to assume if she was in the low to mid 6 figures she’s one of the highest paid female athletes in America I think. Anyone else agree?
I was looking at deleted threads and restored this one. Topic seems fine to me.
Why make it up? Why not verify something before you write it as fact? Seems like that would be just plain common sense.
that actually sounds right. i could see her having earned those numbers (250K) her first two years and then steeply falling off once she stopped racing on the circuit.
as someone else pointed out, nike is incredibly harsh to its female athletes and they're nothing more than walking billboards for the company. if you don't race, then you don't have value to them.
How is that different than any other sport - the avg career of most pro athletes is around 3 or 4 years in the major sports like NFL, NBA and MLB. Only the stars shine, just like anything in life the top .01% get everything and the rest struggle for crumbs.
[quote]Anonymous ex OP affiliate wrote:
Nike is fucking brutal to women ( and men) when they stop performing. A lot of their contracts are performance based.
I don't think Nike is harsh. If you stopped doing your job and going to work you can't expect your company to fukking keep paying you
There's some tennis players making very good money. I would guess that is the highest paying sport for females.
There's probable some in other Olympic sports like Gymnastics.
There are few spread out across things like motor sports.
I think you have to count other athletes endorsements since that's essentially what Cain's Nike contract is. Could Cain really have been top 100? I think she'd have fallen outside of it if you count all earning but not that far out.