Mary Cain vs Nike (once in lifetime athlete REALLY needs our support)

While Mary's attempt to rejoin NOP puts things in a slightly new light it doesn't detract away from the fact 9f the allegations towards her coach and now possibly too persuasive parents unless there's more fiction then facts to the allegations. The truth shall come out soon.

Mary Cain was not a flash of the pan phenom, her limited non elite mileage in high school left so much potential to be developed with slowly increased mileage and training. So what caused her injuries and poor performances???

[quote]Abeneziel wrote:

We should support her, for all the natural talent she possess and for speaking out against the cult that NOP was and for some still is.

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This was a business arrangement she entered into and she and coach misfired on the success thing.

Find another coach, find another sponsor, stop whining.

VIPAM wrote:

I had to respond to this but found it so blatantly ignorant that I had to respond before their quote. You are speaking of body changes that POSSIBLY COULD of resulted in her decline compared to training, mental instability sided by her support team, and nutritional practices that SURELY aided greatly in her decline.

I'll take proof she disclosed over kinda possible any day.

I don't know what your native language is, but you need to work on basic English grammar, syntax, spelling, and diction before you try for vitriol.

Your posts are basically unreadable, but the nastiness comes through loud and clear.

Nothing I said was "blatantly ignorant." There have been countless young female phenoms who have become slower runners because of the physical changes that accompany adolescence. That's common knowledge for anyone who has followed the sport for long.

otter wrote:

If you guys want to send a message, we should as a group on Let’s Run decide not to buy Nike products for a period of 6 months.

Well, they already lost me after the kaepernick thing.

Regardless, I’m on their side on this thing and the Felix thing

VIPAM wrote:

While Mary's attempt to rejoin NOP puts things in a slightly new light it doesn't detract away from the fact . . . [incoherent blather] . . .

You're out of your bloody mind. Puts things in a slightly new light!?

It discredits all of her allegations.

The woman looked into the camera and accused Alberto and the rest of Nike of "abuse."

Now it turns out that she asked to return to her abusers just 7 months ago.

Yeah, I know. The abused often develop an affinity for their abusers. She still loved Alberto and wanted nothing more than to please him.

But the recent decision to ban Alberto from the sport and the NOP's disbandment opened her eyes to the evils of "the system?"

Give me an f'en break. Cain's abuser-love story parrots almost exactly what Kara Goucher once said about her own relationship with Salazar.

What we're dealing with here is just plain old mental instability. Those suicidal thoughts and the self-mutilation are indicative of problems much deeper than just "abusive" coaching.

OMG really is that your official diagnosis?

And why, you have to ask, did she feel like she was alone in all this?

Why didn't she discuss her problems with her parents before things got so bad that she contemplated suicide? They must have communicated frequently. After all, she was still a minor when she signed on with the NOP.

Valid questions you ask but if she truly was victimized could of been fear and/or parents pushing her in that direction.

HOOWIE wrote:

Bad attitudes get you nowhere in life wrote:

She couldn’t hack it at the top level. She didn’t have the physical and mental fortitude. Now she’s looking for someone to blame for her failure. Shows a lack of character on her part.

Fastest american high schooler says your wrong.

So was Lukas V. It didn’t work out for him either.

Stuff happens.

Some succeed, some don’t.

The toughest pill to swallow is that maybe, just maybe she has reached her potential.

Natural talent as you know does reach a top and window of time that an athlete continues to improve.

Extreme talent struggles with success at a young age, few are prepared for what comes with it, the adult expectations.

In my opinion, I don't think she was living in a chamber of hell and abuse with the OP program as the press and others are trying to define it. Life on a pedestal as was lived in high school to a hard task program with a coach and coaches that maybe we're not adept at the psychology and emotional immaturity a young athlete has. Not making excuses for them. They needed help on delivery or execution of messages to the audience.

College coaches are adept at as they deal with year in and out as every new class comes in.

The scorn from the departed NOP athletes should be expected, have you ever heard of anyone saying I love my ex boss because he fired me.