Mary Cain vs Nike (once in lifetime athlete REALLY needs our support)

She said on the news tonight that she wants to try and run at olympic trials. I don't know what her current training is and if that is realistic but it looks like she is going to try. GO MARY!!

She’s a hobby jogger now

She was getting the same kind of attention Jakob Ingebrigtsen is getting now. I thought that comes with a bit of power but apparently it doesn't.

Seyta wrote:

No need to argue with most of your post, but Bekele was absolutely heavily doped. He peaked right as the EPO era was ending. Ethiopia has worse controls than Kenya. There were journalists buying EPO off the street there. Even now they don't have a WADA-accredited facility.

Bekele came after the EPO era, if you call the EPO era the moment when the susbstance was not being tested and detecter. It was known and tested for since the very beginning of the 2000's. He has not been involved in any doping related scandal.

But the point is, he could have weighted 10 pounds less if he had to be as lean as the Salazar runners, but he probably wouldn"t have been as good as he was. This obsession about skeleton shape is sick.

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Abeneziel wrote:

We should support her, for all the natural talent she possess and for speaking out against the cult that NOP was and for some still is.

She is a doping cheater. She deserves no support. She and her parents knew that NOP was dirty before she went there.

We can feel sorry for her because she was given no moral compass as a child, but a doping cheater should never be supported.

I don't agee with you. I don't think that all NOP trained athletes were being given the "secret sauce" as soon as they came. It would have been risky and they could have snitched by one of them.

Only the "special group" would get the best treatment, the athletes trusted by the Guru Salazar, the most receptive and submissive to his training and methods, or the big industrial project that was Mo Farah's career.

NIKE IS CALLING HER OUT ON HER BS!!

Nike is denying it had any prior knowledge of the allegations of physical and emotional abuse leveled by former Nike Oregon Project athlete Mary Cain that were published in a New York Times video today.

In the article, she claimed she was victimized during her time with the company’s running group and its former head coach Alberto Salazar.

“These are deeply troubling allegations which have not been raised by Mary or her parents before,” a Nike spokesperson told FN in a statement today. “Mary was seeking to rejoin the Oregon Project and Alberto’s team as recently as April of this year and had not raised these concerns as part of that process.”

In the midst of the ongoing controversy what evidence do you have which can prove she wanted back into the group as recently as April of this year?

its a pity she didnt expose the epo use,and other drugs that group was using.nike is evil.

It surprises me that no one seems to have mentioned that female prodigies often lose their edge because of the hormonal and anatomical changes (i.e., broadening of the pelvis) that occur as they reach late adolescence.

In fact, I think Cain would have been a rare exception if she had continued to improve, even at a slower rate than she had been improving at.

But the allegation that Alberto was forcing medications on her to keep her weight down is disturbing, if true. And harping on a young woman's weight seems just plain stupid if you truly care about the psychological well being of the athlete.

I also have to admit I cringed a bit when I saw her running post-race intervals on indoor tracks under Alberto's guidance. Didn't seem smart to have a 17- or 18-year-old kid -- one who was already a phenomenon -- training at that intensity that often.

Still, I'm skeptical of the notion that Alberto and his henchmen are entirely to blame for Cain's decline. The physical changes that many young women go through could account for much of it. Those of us who have followed the sport for decades have seen this happen all too often.

VIPAM wrote:

Mary Cain is still only 23 and still have years to mature to the athlete that she should have been for the last 4-5 years...

No way. She is done.

Did you see that video. She has become fat. Certainly overweight, possibly obese.

I had to respond to this but found it so blatantly ignorant that I had to respond before their quote. You are speaking of body changes that POSSIBLY COULD of resulted in her decline compared to training, mental instability sided by her support team, and nutritional practices that SURELY aided greatly in her decline. I'll take proof she disclosed over kinda possible any day.

Youre missing the point wrote:

it's just stats wrote:

prodigies in other sports have a low success hit rate when it comes to the pros....low is a relative term, but many superstars in high school sports fail to make it at the top of the pro ranks for any number of reasons

this is nothing different

Except it is a little different because we can pin point why it is that she could not make the top of the ranks. That is exactly why this is so monumental.

Every single prodigy in all kinds of sports has some kind of excuse of why they didn’t pan out. This is no different. It’s not special. This is commonplace.

She couldn’t hack it at the top level. She didn’t have the physical and mental fortitude. Now she’s looking for someone to blame for her failure. Shows a lack of character on her part.

Bad attitudes get you nowhere in life wrote:

She couldn’t hack it at the top level. She didn’t have the physical and mental fortitude. Now she’s looking for someone to blame for her failure. Shows a lack of character on her part.

Fastest american high schooler says your wrong.

If you guys want to send a message, we should as a group on Let’s Run decide not to buy Nike products for a period of 6 months.

Guts grew up or better yet act with some level of divinity, Mary Cain achieved in high school a level of success a limited amount of athletes achieve in any sports.

Her situation is above your pathetic attempts at humor. At 23 she still have time to display performances worthy of her talent level and make plenty of Championship finals.

Support What????

The young athlete becomes "Too Good Too Soon". It happens all the time. The hardest thing for a young phenom is to maintain a sense of self and perspective as to their current talent and potential. This is where parents, coaches, and friends NEED to help keep the athlete grounded and humble.

Mary and her parents went "All in", took the big money shoe contract and thought she was the "One", instead of being patient and letting her mature both physically and mentally.

This is a disgraceful money grab by an athlete and her parents who gambled and failed. Now she's pulling the #MeToo card to gather sympathy.

TERRIBLE!!!

VIPAM wrote:

In the midst of the ongoing controversy what evidence do you have which can prove she wanted back into the group as recently as April of this year?

She confirmed so

This destroy Nike and Alberto Salazar crusade is a "witch hunt" by disgruntled ex Nike athletes any reasonably intelligent person can see. I ran in NIKE "head to toe" this morning and will continue to do so I support and I don't care what-so-ever what ANYONE thinks. And I'm a woman and mom of three daughters who were D1 track and XC athletes.