Mary Cain vs Nike (once in lifetime athlete REALLY needs our support)

prodigies in other sports have a low success hit rate when it comes to the pros....low is a relative term, but many superstars in high school sports fail to make it at the top of the pro ranks for any number of reasons

this is nothing different

Why are you not a fan?

Except it is a little different because we can pin point why it is that she could not make the top of the ranks. That is exactly why this is so monumental.

We should support her, for all the natural talent she possess and for speaking out against the cult that NOP was and for some still is.

Do anybody know what she is becoming at the moment? Does she still train everyday at the highest level and has the desire and drive to compete? Or has NOP destroyed her for good?

It really annoys me when would be nay sayers step up and add nothing worth while to a discussion. There are superstars in many high school sports and then theres athletes such as Mary Cain caliber. Mary Cain wasn't just a superstar who could possible go to college and disappear.

In high school Mary Cain was competing on a level equal to Olympic or World Championship Finalist and her times and guess what her actually accomplishing that at 17 in the 2013 World Championships prove that....meaning she was one of the 16 best female 1500m runners in the world. No Mary Cain may not have been popular in high school to general sport fans, nor was she someone I was a fan of, but one thing I KNEW EVEN BACK THEN was that the young lady was and STILL IS a once in a lifetime athlete. What she has done is caused me to rethink why other high school phenoms burnout and never reached their potential, hmmm this certainly causes track fans to look at phenoms (not many of Mary stature) and lack of success after high school in a different light.

Abeneziel wrote:

We should support her, for all the natural talent she possess and for speaking out against the cult that NOP was and for some still is.

Do anybody know what she is becoming at the moment? Does she still train everyday at the highest level and has the desire and drive to compete? Or has NOP destroyed her for good?

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I hope she is still competing with the intent of fulfilling her potential. If she can overcome her injuries and mental abuse she have the talent to win multiple medals on the world stage.

To the poster who asked why aren't I a fan of Mary Cain. I can only answer probably because of what she is speaking out against, the cause of her lack of success. I thought she would set the world on fire- and when she went thru the abuse (the world didn't know of)- but that fire never materialize. year after year. Now I can only apologize and show empathy for being clueless to what she was enduring as we looked at her life from the outside.

Sadly, the IAAF stopped tracking her results since 2016 meaning that she has not competed at the highest level. She probably lost at least 3 years of her carreer and who knows if she can recover from her stint at NOP.

These Salasar cult members who believe you have to be a skeleton (not just in shape, but actually a skeleton alive) to compete..... They must have not watched the Goat Bekele who was fit but not a skeleton like the heavily doped Farah or Rupp....

WEJO could you reach out and found out what she her current state of mind is regarding competing in the future and if 2020 is even in the cards for Mary Cain?

Mary! If you read this….get you a great coach that is clean and only needs enough mileage to reach your optimum.

Get the new classy Coach JS!

I’m in full support of Mary on this one. that story made me sad!

Maybe her endocrine system crashed.

Another coach she should look at to return her to world class performances i.s J.J. Clark

J.J. Clark is the Best 800 Coach in the USA and maybe the World.

Abeneziel wrote:

Sadly, the IAAF stopped tracking her results since 2016 meaning that she has not competed at the highest level. She probably lost at least 3 years of her carreer and who knows if she can recover from her stint at NOP.

These Salasar cult members who believe you have to be a skeleton (not just in shape, but actually a skeleton alive) to compete..... They must have not watched the Goat Bekele who was fit but not a skeleton like the heavily doped Farah or Rupp....

No need to argue with most of your post, but Bekele was absolutely heavily doped. He peaked right as the EPO era was ending. Ethiopia has worse controls than Kenya. There were journalists buying EPO off the street there. Even now they don't have a WADA-accredited facility.

Yes and he isn't too bad with 1500m up to cross country. Look at the results of his women's x-country squad at the recent conference meet.

Mary has the talent to go 1:54 high to 1:56 low but ultimately her beard and butter event would have been 5000m and maybe 10000m like Tirunesh Dibaba incredible speed with amazing endurance capability.

VIPAM wrote:

Mary Cain is still only 23 and still have years to mature to the athlete that she should have been for the last 4-5 years....let's support Mary Cain on the road to greatness regardless if that's just in life or athletics. Not only does an athlete of her talent deserves our support after such abuse has been disclosed, any human being deserves our support against such powerful opposition.

I agree.

What do you mean by "support"?

Abeneziel wrote:

We should support her, for all the natural talent she possess and for speaking out against the cult that NOP was and for some still is.

She is a doping cheater. She deserves no support. She and her parents knew that NOP was dirty before she went there.

We can feel sorry for her because she was given no moral compass as a child, but a doping cheater should never be supported.

while i am definitely on the side of mary cain and think she got screwed by NOP and Nike, i'm gonna have to disagree with you on something. early success in runners often times don't translate to later success. i don't feel like having to explain why because i would write about it for paragraphs and don't feel like it right about now. have a nice day

stupid person 69 wrote:

while i am definitely on the side of mary cain and think she got screwed by NOP and Nike, i'm gonna have to disagree with you on something. early success in runners often times don't translate to later success. i don't feel like having to explain why because i would write about it for paragraphs and don't feel like it right about now. have a nice day

Didn’t the New York Times recently publish an article about how top high school female runners almost never become Olympic level as pros?

My hunch is that some of Cain’s “issues” preexisted her involvement with NOP.