KawauchiFTW wrote:
I'm curious to know how does this new test deal with prolonged time spent at altitude... You know, like spending two months above 10,000+ feet high... That certainly will turn those genes as well, if they are tracking the RBC counts... Just thinking aloud...
So the whole 'drugs don't work on Kenyans' thing has been done to death, no we're starting on 'the test doesn't work on Kenyans'.
Great stuff.
SURPRISE wrote:
trollism wrote:
I wish they'd just start using it without telling the athletes.
Same, seems like the best way to truly catch people, no? But I guess this is sort of just a warning, maybe it's not even real and they just want to scare people. Also as someone who is suspicious of British dopers I do find it odd to see they're the ones behind it. Maybe they're using something other than EPO now.
Question though- if you're an athlete who is doped to the gills and you see this, what do you do?
Retire!
banned i got wrote:
Coevett wrote:
Maybe because you're as retarded as Chad? You honestly think that the UK has such a state sponsored doping program that independent university researchers wouldn't be allowed to design an anti-doping test? And British tabloids and journalists, the most rabid in the world, wouldn't have gotten a sniff of this happening under their noses (aside from dodgy packets sent to professional cyclists)?
Presumably you're American like Chad. Dudes - your best coach just got busted for doping, coach of a project run by the biggest sports company in the world - NIKE, an American company. I know Americans never leave the USA and only ever visit American websites, watch Hollywood movies etc, but seriously dudes, I'll let you into a little secret. Most of the world sees YOU guys as the sinister imperialists (I don't by the way), not the British.
steve bro chill out before you have an aneurysm....again lets see paula chicken bobble head retest her old samples....and your go to on your rants is to bash me now? haha your so f*cking pathetic....when was i ever on al sal and NOPs side? oh thats right, only a racist old fart who has NO friends on this site has to go and attack me...i call out ALL possible cheats. you defend britain...when the f*ck have i defended ruppy poop and centro? oh thats right never. you need to get some help before you have a stroke from mental breakdown.
seriously bro you need to chillz it out. funny how you dont ever attack lonestar, just me....maybe cause you feel threatened that i take your thunder or something super 1970s insecure mentality.
who do i think is dirty?
al sal and NOP...YUP
ugly paula and mo? YUP
majority of top kenyans especially those associated with rosa and canova? YUP
willis? no and 3:32 isnt THAT bada$$....stop trying to say he is a 3:29 guy, monaco is a fake PR infested 1500m. 3:32 isnt that fast, there are americans that run that fast...leo was one of them
anyone associated with Aden? YUP
for some pathetic reason (prob the same reason el K defends kenya) you refuse to think that paula or mo are fake a$$ dopers...then brag about how clean UK is....yeah it shows big guy, 1:45 in the 800 is slow, but at least its clean, sorry most the UK running talent is either dead from ww1 and ww2, fat and worthless from generations of white privilege or playing soccer. stop ranting that UK is the only clean and pure place on the planet.
paula is a cheat, mo is a cheat, and coe is corrupt....accept it like el K had to accept that kenya has a SERIOUS doping problem
Why are expletive laden "flight of ideas" posts like this permitted here? Is this typical?
Chad has a history of posting successive wall of text rage fuelled rants, then telling other people to chill out.
That's why he was banned.
I think you should be worried about where the next GB athletics gold medal will come from LOL, instead of thinking about overrated Jakob winning anything.....
But your banning was unjust, I'm sure.
Coevett wrote:
Chad has a history of posting successive wall of text rage fuelled rants, then telling other people to chill out.
That's why he was banned.
If that is "chad" posting that pile of trash, then he most certainly needs to be banned. That kind of post should be wholly unacceptable. Who even talks to someone that way?
trollism wrote:
I wish they'd just start using it without telling the athletes.
I was thinking that too, but I would imagine this test should work on any stored blood samples, so they will be able to perform it on what they have going back ten years.
At least this way we might see a relatively clean Olympics next year, instead of having half the medalists stripped when the testing results are announced afterwards.
Hopefully they can start nabbing dopers with it a few months before Tokyo and that should have a deterrent effect immediately.
GBnothingWithoutFarah wrote:
I think you should be worried about where the next GB athletics gold medal will come from LOL, instead of thinking about overrated Jakob winning anything.....
Hi El K! When you are under your GBnothing identity, are you a male or a female (or intersex)?
Coevett wrote:
I was thinking that too, but I would imagine this test should work on any stored blood samples, so they will be able to perform it on what they have going back ten years.
Wouldn't that be awesome! Retesting of, at least, everyone ever on the likely doping list since 2010, plus of course all medal winners and all Aden and NOP athletes.
Coevett wrote:
At least this way we might see a relatively clean Olympics next year, instead of having half the medalists stripped when the testing results are announced afterwards.
Hopefully they can start nabbing dopers with it a few months before Tokyo and that should have a deterrent effect immediately.
Agreed - but it won't come that fast. See here the second last paragraph from that link:
The chief drawback of genetic sequencing is the huge cost involved. It requires a genetic sequencer and supercomputer, the combined value of which can be £4 million. However, a Chinese company recently agreed to loan Pitsiladis a sequencer and he has secured funding recently of about £750,000 from Wada, the International Olympic Committee and other sponsors. If additional funding is secured, he is hopeful of having the test in place for the Tokyo Olympics next year. That might be too soon for genetic sequencing to become a sanctionable Wada test, but it could at least provide anti-doping investigators with intelligence.
Coevett wrote:
SURPRISE wrote:
Same, seems like the best way to truly catch people, no? But I guess this is sort of just a warning, maybe it's not even real and they just want to scare people. Also as someone who is suspicious of British dopers I do find it odd to see they're the ones behind it. Maybe they're using something other than EPO now.
Question though- if you're an athlete who is doped to the gills and you see this, what do you do?
Maybe because you're as retarded as Chad? You honestly think that the UK has such a state sponsored doping program that independent university researchers wouldn't be allowed to design an anti-doping test? And British tabloids and journalists, the most rabid in the world, wouldn't have gotten a sniff of this happening under their noses (aside from dodgy packets sent to professional cyclists)?
Presumably you're American like Chad. Dudes - your best coach just got busted for doping, coach of a project run by the biggest sports company in the world - NIKE, an American company. I know Americans never leave the USA and only ever visit American websites, watch Hollywood movies etc, but seriously dudes, I'll let you into a little secret. Most of the world sees YOU guys as the sinister imperialists (I don't by the way), not the British.
1.) I never said that the UK had a state sponsored doping program. 2.)I think British journalists probably don't give an f about track and field, and I will even go so far as to say someone may be paying to keep things on the DL.
I am an American, and I am definitely not saying that Americans aren't doping, which is why you don't see America coming up with any new tests or doing anything to stop it. If anything, American money is spent finding ways to cheat the system and stay 1 step ahead of these tests (which is basically what we now know was going on at NOP- so I agree with you there). There were many performances in Doha that I found suspicious (YES- that includes Americans), but there were many notable GB performances that had me a little suspicious too.
One person I don't think was doping is Centro, and that's only because I feel like if he was he could perform a lot better, let's not forget he won in 3:50. Other than his association with NOP (which yes, I agree makes him shady), is there any reasons to believe he's doping?
If the test does what they say it does we will see some interesting performances next year. A fall-off in times across the board and some countries more than others.
Yes, and some early retirements/permanent injuries.
Or lots of retroactive bans, as soon as the test will be WADA-approved.
Either way, this is great news.
Lmao they are going to test positive too. All 3 bros
nah.if its all true,he'll get busted for epo use,along with the kenyans ethiopians,moroccans,americans,brits,and everyone else.i wont hold my breath.if its true,and if it works the only people getting popped will be eastern europeans,and a stray kenyan or two.
jeff tallon wrote:
nah.if its all true,he'll get busted for epo use,along with the kenyans ethiopians,moroccans,americans,brits,and everyone else.i wont hold my breath.if its true,and if it works the only people getting popped will be eastern europeans,and a stray kenyan or two.
The 'everybody dopes equally' crowd already getting their excuses in.
One small British city (Brighto) has now produced Steve Ovett, Charlie Grice, and the anti-doping test that might save the sport.
*Brighton
I will not only lmao when Ethiopia suddenly goes into decline, but burst into little pieces when Yannis's test busts the Robertsons when Yannis did so much for them and they shafted him.
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