2015 positive tests will be revealed next year.

banned i got wrote:

men:

100m- bolt wont be busted, but maybe gatlin

200m- same

400m- dont see them busting van

800m- rudisha? oh man el k would prob overdose

1500- we already know kiprop, will elijah and iguider go down? other peeps in the race as well?

5 &10, mo? i HOPE SO

4x100...everyone but bolt will burn

women:

8-5k will have some BURNING

anyone else have some guesses?

Delusions of the typical Letsrun.com poster needing to change reality to some fake warped version to feel better about himself and to avoid facing the fact that he and people like him are and always will be inferior. There will be a grand time in the future when the natural, pure and true natural nature of reality will be revealed and this fake Modernity will be no more.

Coevett wrote:

banned i got wrote:

at least you can admit it....too bad so many others on here refuse to do it...like gary and coevett

For the mods - this is an example of the racist bullying I'm subjected to here. Chad calls me an idiot completely unprovoked, as he does repeatedly for no other reason than I'm British. I then respond in kind and he cries like a baby and then his doped up American friends such as '100m' accuse me of bullying HIM.

I do not think that word means what you think it means.

Holy moly - you just demolished covett.

Beautiful work ??

my name is inigo montoya wrote:

Coevett wrote:

For the mods - this is an example of the racist bullying I'm subjected to here. Chad calls me an idiot completely unprovoked, as he does repeatedly for no other reason than I'm British. I then respond in kind and he cries like a baby and then his doped up American friends such as '100m' accuse me of bullying HIM.

I do not think that word means what you think it means.

it surprises me how many times its used incorrectly

LoneStarXC wrote:

Why do we have to wait so long?

In 1988 it only took three days for Ben Johnson's positive test to be released and him to be disqualified. In 2019 we need to wait for months and years to get people disqualified.

fancybear wrote:

The tests from Beijing will finally become public next year. Stay tuned.

Great. Do book keepers take bets on who is going to be outed/busted?

My first thought was it would allow people with guilty consciences some time to arrange payoffs so their results are buried before the announcement.

LoneStarXC wrote:

Why do we have to wait so long?

Coevett wrote:

Retards like Chad hoping that it will be Brits getting busted have their heads up their behinds.

If this is genuine, there is no reason to believe that the positives will not be from the usual cheats (American sprinters and African distance runners). And maybe Mo.

Looking at the 1500m final, it would great if Kiprop, Manangoi, Iguider, Big Mac, Kiplagat, Centro and Tim all tested positive.

That would mean Nick being upgraded to gold and Charlie Grice upgraded to silver.

And if positives from 2015 mean that the caught athletes subsequent performances get scrubbed with a backdated suspension, then it would rewrite 1500 history.

Nick Willis would get his Olympic gold medal, not for 2008, but for Rio 2016. (Only Big Mac and Centro failing would be needed for that). Filip would get the 2017 World Championship Gold, and Lewandowski, Jakob, and Wightman would get Gold, Silver, and Bronze for Doha.

Bit of a contradiction. Mo is a Brit.

Mo won't be positive

Not with coe in charge

Over the last half-dozen years or so they have been retesting samples from up to eight years earlier (now moved up to ten years for the retest window; I am not certain but in general this is the right timeframe). When you look at the new positive results from the more sensitive testing what you see is that the new positives are dominated by Russia and a few other countries, with very few from a lot of other countries. For one of them I copied the resulting actions and sorted them, I will try to post them here.

2008 Women’s Athletics 4×100 relay. Russia [Gold] disqualified. Advance Belgium to gold, Nigeria to silver, and Brazil to bronze.

2012 Men’s Athletics 50 km walk. Sergey Kirdyapkin (RUS) [Gold] disqualified. Advance Jared Tallent (AUS) to gold, Si Tianfeng (CHN) to silver, and Robbie Heffernan (IRL) to bronze.

2012 Women’s Athletics Hammer throw. Tatyana Lysenko (RUS) [Gold] disqualified. Advance Anita Włodarczyk (POL) to gold, Betty Heidler (GER) to silver, and Zhang Wenxiu (CHN) to bronze.

2012 Women’s Athletics Steeplechase. Yuliya Zaripova (RUS) [Gold] disqualified. Advance Habiba Ghribi (TUN) to gold, Sofia Assefa (ETH) to silver, and Milcah Chemos Cheywa (KEN) to bronze.

2008 Women’s Athletics 10,000 metres. Elvan Abeylegesse (TUR) [Silver] disqualified. Advance Shalane Flanagan (USA) to silver, and Linet Masai (KEN) to bronze.

2008 Women’s Athletics 4×400 relay. Russia [Silver] disqualified. Advance Jamaica to silver, and Great Britain to bronze.

2008 Women’s Athletics 5,000 metres. Elvan Abeylegesse (TUR) [Silver] disqualified. Advance Meseret Defar (ETH) to silver, and Sylvia Kibet (KEN) to bronze.

2008 Women’s Athletics Discus throw. Yarelis Barrios (CUB) [Silver] disqualified. Advance Olena Antonova (UKR) to silver and Song Aimin (CHN) to bronze.

2008 Women’s Athletics Shot put. Nataliya Khoroneko (BLR) [Silver] and Nadezhda Ostapchuk (BLR) [Bronze] disqualified. Advance Misleydis González (CUB) to silver, and Gong Lijiao (CHN) to bronze.

2012 Men’s Athletics Javelin throw. Oleksandr P’iatnytsia (UKR) [Silver] disqualified. Advance Antti Ruuskanen (FIN) to silver and Vitezslav Vesely (CZE) to bronze.

2012 Women’s Athletics 20 km walk. Olga Kaniskina (RUS) [Silver] disqualified. Advance Qieyang Shenjie (CHN) to silver, and Liu Hong (CHN) to bronze.

2012 Women’s Athletics 4×400 relay. Russia [Silver] disqualified. Advance Jamaica to silver, and the Ukraine to bronze.

2012 Women’s Athletics Shot put. Yevgeniya Kolodko (RUS) [Silver] disqualified. Advance Gong Lijiao (CHN) to silver, and Li Ling (CHN) to bronze.

2008 Men’s Athletics 4×400 relay. Russia [Bronze] disqualified. Advance Great Britain to bronze.

2008 Men’s Athletics Pole vault. Denys Yurchenko (UKR) [Bronze] disqualified. Advance Derek Miles (USA) to bronze.

2008 Women’s Athletics High jump. Anna Chicherova (RUS) [Bronze] disqualified. Advance Chaunté Lowe (USA) to bronze.

2008 Women’s Athletics Steeplechase. Yekaterina Volkova (RUS) [Bronze] disqualified. Advance Tatyana Petrova-Arkhipova (RUS) to bronze.

2008 Women’s Modern Pentathlon Individual. Viktoriya Tereshchuk (UKR) [Bronze] disqualified. Advance Anastasiya Samusevich (BLR) to bronze.

2008 Men’s Wrestling 120 kg Greco-Roman. Khasan Baroyev (RUS) [Silver] disqualified. Advance Mindaugas Mizgaitis (LTU) to silver, and Yury Patrikeyev (ARM) to bronze.

2008 Men’s Wrestling 60 kg Greco-Roman. Vitaliy Rəhimov (AZE) [Silver] disqualified. Advance Nurbakyt Tengizbayev (KAZ) to silver, and Ruslan Tumenbayev (KGZ) to bronze.

2008 Women’s Weightlifting +75 kg. Olha Korobka (UKR) [Silver] and Mariya Grabovetskaya (KAZ) [Bronze] disqualified. Advance Ele Opeloge (SAM) to silver, and Maryam Usman (NGR) to bronze.

2008 Women’s Athletics Hammer throw. Oksana Menkova (BLR) [Gold] disqualified. Advance Yipsi Moreno (CUB) to gold, and Zhang Wenxiu (CHN) to silver.

2012 Women’s Athletics 1,500 metres. Asli Cakir (TUR) [Gold] disqualified. Advance Maryam Jamal (BRN) to gold. No other advancement.

2012 Women’s Athletics 800 metres. Mariya Savinova (RUS) [Gold] disqualified. Advance Caster Semenya (RSA) to gold, and Yekaterina Poistogova (RUS) to silver.

2008 Women’s Athletics Javelin throw. Mariya Abakumova (RUS) [Silver] disqualified. Advance Christina Obergföll (GER) to silver.

2008 Women’s Athletics Long jump. Tatyana Lebedeva (RUS) [Silver] disqualified. Advance Blessing Okagbare (NGR) to silver.

2012 Women’s Athletics Discus throw. Darya Pishchalnikova (RUS) [Silver] disqualified. Advance Li Yanfeng (CHN) to silver.

2008 Men’s Weightlifting 94 kg. Ilya Ilyin (KAZ) [Gold] disqualified. Advance Szymon Kołecki (POL) to gold.

2008 Women’s Weightlifting 48 kg. Chen Xiexia (CHN) [Gold] and Sibel Özkan (TUR) [Silver] disqualified. Advance Chen Wei-Ling (TPE) to gold.

2008 Women’s Weightlifting 69 kg. Liu Chunhong (CHN) [Gold] disqualified. Advance Oksana Slivenko (RUS) to gold.

2008 Women’s Weightlifting 75 kg. Cao Lei (CHN) [Gold] disqualified. Advance Alla Vazhenina (KAZ) to gold.

2012 Women’s Weightlifting 53 kg. Zulfiya Chinshanlo (KAZ) [Gold] disqualified. Advance Shu-Ching Hsu (TPE) to gold.

2012 Women’s Weightlifting 63 kg. Maiya Maneza (KAZ) [Gold] disqualified. Advance Christine Girard (CAN) to gold.

2008 Women’s Weightlifting 58 kg. Marina Shainova (RUS) [Silver] disqualified. Advance Jong-Ae O (PRK) to silver.

2008 Women’s Weightlifting 63 kg. Irina Nekrasova (KAZ) [Silver] disqualified. Advance Ying-Chi Lu (TPE) to silver.

2012 Men’s Weightlifting 85 kg. Apti Aukhadov (RUS) [Silver] disqualified. Advance Kianoush Rostami (IRI) to silver.

So, the retests are unlikely to look like the sort of strewn about in posts that do not seem to have much connection to anything other than personal speculation, usually with some bias. I think that it much more likely that the new results will be of the same sort as in the past except that certain countries have been removed, at least in part, from certain sports. Also note that Weightlifting etc have a lot of the positives.

just sayin wrote:

Mo won't be positive

Not with coe in charge

+1.

We'll only see meaningful change after the British cabal, that's currently trying its best to wipe out distance-running on the track, is overthrown from the IAAF/WA. They want to turn athletics into cricket which is played seriously in less than 10 countries.

Cricket's too long a game. They want to turn track into events that last just the time between commercial breaks, viral worthy, events for people in a rush to glance at and turn away. They're destroying distance running at anything beyond Seb Coe's own distances. Is he actually going to follow through on his alleged interest in bringing cross-country to the winter or summer Olympics? He's wrecking the sport. And, yes, the delay between announcements of positive tests and announcements of names was based on legal maneuvers and extortion, in the past. Time to ask Asli Cakir, for instance, for half a million dollars to suppress her 2012 positive test. That was Lamine Diack. Seb Coe was only the assistant then, plausible deniability for him.

zxczxvc wrote:

Cricket's too long a game. They want to turn track into events that last just the time between commercial breaks, viral worthy, events for people in a rush to glance at and turn away. They're destroying distance running at anything beyond Seb Coe's own distances. Is he actually going to follow through on his alleged interest in bringing cross-country to the winter or summer Olympics? He's wrecking the sport. And, yes, the delay between announcements of positive tests and announcements of names was based on legal maneuvers and extortion, in the past. Time to ask Asli Cakir, for instance, for half a million dollars to suppress her 2012 positive test. That was Lamine Diack. Seb Coe was only the assistant then, plausible deniability for him.

?? I actually agree with every word. Kudos!