Non runners understand the term hobby jogger, why can't real runners?

pr100 wrote:

Maybe because there's a spectrum from coach potato to world class athlete, and trying to put an arbitrary line somewhere in between doesn't make much sense?

Yet, an arbitrary line exists. Someone running 25 minute 5ks at the local turkey trot is a hobby jogger. There’s no logical way to disagree with that. It’s purely a hobby for them that they enjoy. And that pace is a jog. Thus, they are a hobby jogger.

you're a complete idiot wrote:

Matbar wrote:

Real runners do, it’s the group in between them and those that do it as a hobby that don’t, it’s the 15-16min 5km’er or the equivalent for other distance/time the “I train x miles/minutes a week and run at a competitive level crowd, I faster than you” besides then are probably doping anyway... :)

If you think you need to dope to run a sub 15 min 5km (as a male) then you're a complete idiot!

I liked banana bread comment :) let’s run anyone faster is doping....

I know so many that could not run 15min min 5km even if doping, but then again it’s a hobby and most of us are in our 40’s, have long your jobs and not be part of a track program with fantastic facilities.

My personal view is if it’s not a career it’s a hobby, most have to be within10% of the WR whereas other are instagramming, beside if its more than 10% sure you are a great runner but your are no elite and the equivalent of jogging based on their performance

everyone slower than me is a hobby jogger wrote:

When talking to a non runner about running and if I use the term 'hobby jogger' in the conversation, they understand what I mean by it. But yet runners on here don't, why is that?

Or the non-runner is so bored listening to you blather on about running they are pretending to understand and to care.

It's like listening to cat stories, or fantasy football strategies, or retelling of dreams, or back in the day exploits, or drinking escapades....zzzzzzzzzzzss

everyone slower than me is a hobby jogger wrote:

When talking to a non runner about running and if I use the term 'hobby jogger' in the conversation, they understand what I mean by it. But yet runners on here don't, why is that?

I understand, friend.

(I’m not sure non-runners really do though. They’re probably just politely waiting for you to change the topic to anything not called running.)

sbeefyk2 wrote:

pr100 wrote:

Maybe because there's a spectrum from coach potato to world class athlete, and trying to put an arbitrary line somewhere in between doesn't make much sense?

Yet, an arbitrary line exists. Someone running 25 minute 5ks at the local turkey trot is a hobby jogger. There’s no logical way to disagree with that. It’s purely a hobby for them that they enjoy. And that pace is a jog. Thus, they are a hobby jogger.

Obvisouly no line exists. There will be hundreds of turkey trot runners that will have spent several months (years?) preparing for a sub 25 and finally get it. They will have sacrificed, trained seriously, and certainly don't consider that pace a jog. With the exception of a few gift cards, they are no different than the 14:50 runner. Both are hobbyists. Both jog, both run.

the term jogging was invented by Arthur Lydiard and it clearly means that jogging is for people who aren't training for competitions and who never run at high HR because that can be dangerous. He wrote in the Jogging the Lydiard Way as follows:

So everybody who wants to try to run faster or train for an event, cannot be a jogger anymore. You have to decide, do you want to be a jogger or become a runner.

no dude no wrote:

Obvisouly no line exists. There will be hundreds of turkey trot runners that will have spent several months (years?) preparing for a sub 25 and finally get it. They will have sacrificed, trained seriously, and certainly don't consider that pace a jog. With the exception of a few gift cards, they are no different than the 14:50 runner. Both are hobbyists. Both jog, both run.

Honestly I don't believe this. Some people just run too slowly in training because they don't want to feel uncomfortable. They sacrifice time but trained seriously (?!), definitely not.