Here's a pic I took of Tommy running 2:24 in Edinburgh in 1985
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10156607654298315&set=pcb.1786950771450318&type=3&theater
Vaporfly's do it again!! 59 yr old Tommy Hughes runs 2:27:52 marathon as he and son set father/son world record in Frankfurt
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This is very impressive- Congratulations!
You and your dad set a 'world record' that you probably did not even know or think about at the time.
You said you ran the marathon together, and your finishing times were close but not that close.
So by together did you mean you both ran in the same race? Did you run next to each other until near the end?
Were you and your dad racing each other?
What a very special thing it must be to share doing so well and running so fast with your father. -
Maybe Rojo needs to go run a marathon and prove it’s the shoe’s. I’ll pay him $100 for every minute faster than his PR.
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do shoes run themselves? wrote:
This headline is so disrespectful. The vaporflys are not running themselves.
Rojo needs to get over his Nike hatred or find another job.
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Unbelievable...all the more reason to dislike Nike. All this 1987 race proves, and it is rather obvious: Nike introduced the Vapor Fly in 1987 in FRANCE! Disgusting that they have clearly been lying all these years. Its impossible that the father-son duo ran that fast without the shoes. Impossible.
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Ackley wrote:His father passed him between 35k and 40k. I wish there was video of the pass.
I can relate to that. Tommy passed me between 35 & 40k of Rotterdam back in April after I'd blown up. He was flying! And he looks so old that I thought he must be in a relay or something. Think he ran about 2:31 in the end vs my 2:34 (my blow up included 2min on the side of the road at 40k with hamstring cramps...) -
elpirato wrote:
Is it just me, or does he look a bit like the cyclist Marco Pantani (RIP)? The shaved head / ears combo is similar.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0f/Marco_Pantani.jpg/220px-Marco_Pantani.jpg
Shhhh! It is Pantani, he never died, he faked his death. I signed his death certificate in exchange of a lotta money ;) -
So the shoes have been around since 1987?
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For years everyone was saying how fast everyone was back in the 80’s.
Why hasn’t anyone looked into the shoes?
Burfoot himself wrote:
“performances appear to have declined since peaking in the early ’80s”
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Congratulations!
Running 2:27:52 at 59 yo is still incredible, but your combo was superior.
I have 2 questions for you:
Do you have a son? And if you do, is he a great runner too?
kolbeck Gérard wrote:
Me and my Father we are make better on 1987 and 1993 on the Marathon on Neuf-Brisach ( FRANCE )...my father was 2x Olympians on the Marathon in Munich 72 and Montréal 76...and we run the marathon together...in 1987 his age was 43 and me 23...he won the Marathon in 2h22'54" and I finish second in 2h23'10"....and in 1993 ( age 49 for him and 29 for me ) I Won the same Marathon in2h23'22" and he finish second in 2h24'39"...perhaps gives other father and son over the world but for the moment we are make better. ( sorry ). -
So Rojo & Wejo, anyone up for a little testing & experimentation?? I’m 52 & I recently ran a half marathon in 1:22:xx, looking to go sub-1:18 in my next half which will be in Vapor Flys on a flat and fast course in CA in 6 weeks. Send me to a similar size & depth of field race 3-4 weeks later and I’ll run it in ‘normal’ racing shoes. Same difficulty for the race course, roughly the same fitness level, I’m not a former Olympian...I wonder if the result would be comparable?
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It isn't the shoes. Just like it wasn't the bike.
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rojo wrote:
Does anyone kow if the Marathon de Neuf-Brisach, which was held from 1971-2000, was record eligible? I can't find a course map since the race stopped it's existence so long ago.
Was it a loop course?
I don't know if you could find that information online, but the FFA (french athletics federation), or it's local branch in Alsace might have a record of that?
This is along the border, perhaps there might be something in the archives of
Laufreport.de? Or some other old running portals in French from the area? -
“Vaporflys”
The apostrophe has nothing to do with the plural form.
Although a plural word can be possessive, such as “the pair of vaporflys’ owner, rojo, put his foot on his mouth.” -
kolbeck Gérard wrote:
Me and my Father we are make better on 1987 and 1993 on the Marathon on Neuf-Brisach ( FRANCE )...my father was 2x Olympians on the Marathon in Munich 72 and Montréal 76...and we run the marathon together...in 1987 his age was 43 and me 23...he won the Marathon in 2h22'54" and I finish second in 2h23'10"....and in 1993 ( age 49 for him and 29 for me ) I Won the same Marathon in2h23'22" and he finish second in 2h24'39"...perhaps gives other father and son over the world but for the moment we are make better. ( sorry ).
but what shoes did you wear? -
Really wrote:
Grenster wrote:
Also this weekend, 9 runners go sub 29 minutes at the Leeds Abbey Dash 10k in the UK. In a typical year (and a good one at that) perhaps one person would duck under 29 at most. Similar at other depths with 28 sub 30 and 65 sub 31.
For comparison, 2018 saw: 0 sub 29, 7 sub 30 and 32 sub 31.
2017 saw: 0 sub 29, 14 sub 30 and 31 sub 31.
At first I naturally thought positively and think how good this is for British distance running.....then reality sets in when I saw a photo taken just after the gun and saw what was on the runners' feet! I guess comparison of times are meaningless now and we have to reset what we think of as a good time. But for me that is sad as the beauty of athletics is we should be able to compare times throughout the ages.
Yes - just like it is meaningful to compare times run in shoes that runners put nails in themselves and modern day spikes.
Wouldn't the best thing to do be to introduce a rule that records from this day on should only be eligible if they are run in bare feet? Coe talked about wiping all previous records due to doping, but now we have another golden opportunity. This way records will be more comparable from era to era. People like Abebe Bikila, Ron Hill, Bruce Tulloh, and Zola bud should be considered as the current world record holders ... -
I find it amazing that this guy has a 46.17 400m PR and 2:13 marathon, according to his Iaff bio. That's some amazing range.! Anyway, this guy has been crushing it for a long time now and the shoes have very little to do with that.
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Stating the obvious wrote:
Damn kid was always a slacker, nothing like his old man
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Tommy ran 2.30 in Rotterdam earlier in the year. He holds nearly all, if not all, world records for a 59 year old from 5k to marathon. Just for context, at Barcelona '92, he was injured and ran with a stress fracture!
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Uummm, ever heard of Eliud Kipchoge?????
Another 59 yr old running some pretty good times.
