Sifan Hassan praises Salazar after Valencia - Jos Hermens says she'll stay in Portland.

That means someone who's involved in the dodgy stuff.

Who are the four american coaches?

Surely Pete

Schumacher? I don't think BTC is keen to jump on the Hassan train.

Mark Rowland? Is he still there?

Jerry would obviously provide a great setup for her.

trollism wrote:

That means someone who's involved in the dodgy stuff.

Look, do these people really need a coach in the sense that someone needs to tell them what workouts to do? I don't. Now, I may not be as fast as the people we read about, but I can use their training to influence my own. Trial and error can tell me what works and doesn't for me specifically but there's not a real wide spectrum of choices I'm choosing from since trial and error using the best athletes over a century has already tested various options. Remember the big dramatic final workout before leaving Portland? Several mile repeats followed by several quarters. Various posters, even some of similar speed, commented on how unremarkable it was. A good choice which many of them had run also, but not new or unusual. There was a schedule from Ritz that surfaced from right after he joined Al. It looked like a lot of the stuff Kennedy did in his prime. This is not rocket science. But chemical enhancement, especially without triggering tests and ideally staying within the letter of the law, is.

Yes they need coaches. Hassan is not very bright, I am afraid, she might have picked up some principles of training/coaching but not good enough for a world class runner. It's also a psychological thing.

1% is the difference between earning gold and being off the podium. Coaches matter at this level.

Is she married?

She seems like a hot potato as her recent performances are embedded among the all-time doped women's performances. Also seems a bit flaky, certainly puts her emotions on her sleeves.

kerir wrote:

Who are the four american coaches?

Surely Pete

Schumacher? I don't think BTC is keen to jump on the Hassan train.

Mark Rowland? Is he still there?

He took on Centro, in the midst of the WADA investigation without hesitation...if that tells you anything about their "clean image" they try so hard to maintain. Too bad Fancy Bears also exposed Jager...

Jo72 wrote:

Yes they need coaches. Hassan is not very bright, I am afraid, she might have picked up some principles of training/coaching but not good enough for a world class runner. It's also a psychological thing.

You're an a$$hole. You'e the one that's not bright, Hassan speaks multiple languages and is as bright as they come. Stupid Americans often misinterpret someone that speaks English as a second or third language, as being dumb because they stumble over words. That doesn't make them dumb. How many languages do you speak ? You piece of sh*t!

I am multilingual, German native, fluent in English, reading Latin, speak/read/understand basic French and Spanish.

You are missing my point. She is not smart enough or sufficiently educated or experienced in sport science to self coach. Most athletes aren't. And that's o.k. (And I still think that she is not very bright, which is o.k., she is supposed to run well not teach quantum mechanics.)

Yes, I think there’s a very important psychological factor to the value of a coach. Being a professional runner left on your own with no guidance must be a daunting and lonely task. Maybe some older/mature runners can handle it, but perhaps a mid-20 year old runner that travels around in an unfamiliar world for competition might need an experienced anchor to give them a safe feeling and confidence that the hard work they are doing is putting them on the right/best path for success. That is the motivation that propels them.

Training plans are not new, but understanding the application of training techniques to each individual runner based on their current physical/mental state could make a big difference. Pushing when needed, backing off when necessary, but always providing support in the fullest. I’m always surprised when I hear runners speak of a coach with a certain reverence that is reserved for such things as a mentor, a teacher and even a father figure. I don’t really hear that from professional runners about too many well-known professional distance coaches out there.

Jo72 wrote:

I am multilingual, German native, fluent in English, reading Latin, speak/read/understand basic French and Spanish.

You are missing my point. She is not smart enough or sufficiently educated or experienced in sport science to self coach. Most athletes aren't. And that's o.k. (And I still think that she is not very bright, which is o.k., she is supposed to run well not teach quantum mechanics.)

So you know her personally? What do you base you insults on?

Jo72 wrote:

I am multilingual, German native, fluent in English, reading Latin, speak/read/understand basic French and Spanish.

You are missing my point. She is not smart enough or sufficiently educated or experienced in sport science to self coach. Most athletes aren't. And that's o.k. (And I still think that she is not very bright, which is o.k., she is supposed to run well not teach quantum mechanics.)

German native is a deflection and doesn't answer whether you speak fluent German.

Reading Latin is something every catholic school child or someone who's taken medical terminology can do.

Any high school student that has taken 2 years of Spanish or French understands basic Sanish or French.

The only language you said you are fluent in is English. That doesn't make you multilingual you stupid-fucktard.

You 're clearly one of those woman hating, brown people stereotyping shitbags. You know nothing about Sifan Hassan.

Real Lyfe Nobodee wrote:

kerir wrote:

Who are the four american coaches?

Surely Pete

Schumacher? I don't think BTC is keen to jump on the Hassan train.

Mark Rowland? Is he still there?

He took on Centro, in the midst of the WADA investigation without hesitation...if that tells you anything about their "clean image" they try so hard to maintain. Too bad Fancy Bears also exposed Jager...

Fancy Bears? Isn’t that a public relations entity for Vladimir Putin?

I agree.... wrote:

Remember the big dramatic final workout before leaving Portland? Several mile repeats followed by several quarters. Various posters, even some of similar speed, commented on how unremarkable it was.

It was also fake news.

She is still young and I think benefits a lot from a coach. For someone like Centro the coach doesn't matter.

What isn't fake news on this site?

Are you Multilingual? wrote:

Jo72 wrote:

Yes they need coaches. Hassan is not very bright, I am afraid, she might have picked up some principles of training/coaching but not good enough for a world class runner. It's also a psychological thing.

You're an a$$hole. You'e the one that's not bright, Hassan speaks multiple languages and is as bright as they come. Stupid Americans often misinterpret someone that speaks English as a second or third language, as being dumb because they stumble over words. That doesn't make them dumb. How many languages do you speak ? You piece of sh*t!

Which languages are you talking about?

Her Dutch is so bad that they still subtitle her, even when she has been living here in the Netherlands for many years as a "refugee".

Her English is pretty bad as well.

And when you are able to understand what she says, she doesn't give a particular bright impression, to say the least.

She is also a Salafi Muslim, but that's another can of worms.

You are fake news. Ethiopian, Dutch, English, American ...... you are fake news.