Young Kenyan 800m athlete busted for doping

El Keniano wrote:

Really sad. A junior can't have the know-how to be doing that by herself. Start looking at who she's with and nip it in the bud.

your silly el K...one min your upset and blaming who is doing the doping for her, then later your doing your usual doping apologist rants lol

seriously then mr el K....if she cant be doping herself, who is her "al sal" then? who is her coach? who is her agent? what group does she train with?

maybe if you truly are a kenyan (which we all doubt), you should get off your lazy a$$ and NIP it at the bud as you say....kenyans are doping like crazy, and it all comes from the TOP, who is at the top? its pretty simple, sleezy italians who claim they no nothing about doping and kenyans dont dope. if you get rid of the TOP too liars the doping will be GREATLY reduced. but since your not a kenyan, your just some pasty ginger brit armchair doping apologist and you defend rosa and renato no matter what, then doping will in fact CONTINUE

simple...ban the italians from the COUNTRY and watch as the doping declines

It's downright crazy in Kenya wrote:

LoneStarXC wrote:

And another one bites the dust. This doesn’t prove, however, that AKAD works. It proves that they catch SOME dopers. But we’re talking about an anti-doping agency where athletes know about upcoming tests in advance and pay bribes to testers.

Why would they be giving anabolic steroids to a 17 yr old female? That's reminiscent of the East German crap back in the 70s & 80s! ? Roids can have long-term damaging effects to a teenager's physiology.

It is also how you get women who can run 48.14 at age 21 and be set for life.

yeah,i know bahrain loves to drug up its athletes,and kenyans still run for them.they no longer go to qatar.now its bahrain and turkey.

+1 ?

jeff tallon wrote:

yeah,i know bahrain loves to drug up its athletes,and kenyans still run for them.they no longer go to qatar.now its bahrain and turkey.

What's their incentive for going over there jeff? Are they getting promised good doping coaches/doctors, training facilities, lavish homes, fancy cars, etc.? I've never seen so many imported Africans that get caught for doping over there - it's uncanny.

What's up with dopers running for Bahrain? wrote:

jeff tallon wrote:

yeah,i know bahrain loves to drug up its athletes,and kenyans still run for them.they no longer go to qatar.now its bahrain and turkey.

What's their incentive for going over there jeff? Are they getting promised good doping coaches/doctors, training facilities, lavish homes, fancy cars, etc.? I've never seen so many imported Africans that get caught for doping over there - it's uncanny.

It's simply. Bahrain gives much more money than any other country for their athletes. Ruth Jebet after winning in Rio 2016 got $500,000.

There not any regulations that dopers have to give their momey prizes back, so they don't have almost nothing to loose.

Imagine: you are from poor background and you become a very good athlete, than someone tell you that you can make so much money (like Jebet).

Some people will do everything to get money like that.

"It emerged the Bahrain government had paid Jebet a $500,000 bonus for her Olympic success. "

The problem is that banned athletes don't have to give money back. In real life it's like that: someone steals, police catches him and they take money that he have stolen. In athletics it's not like that.

Very informative...thanks.

El Keniano wrote:

LoneStarXC wrote:

And another one bites the dust. This doesn’t prove, however, that AKAD works. It proves that they catch SOME dopers. But we’re talking about an anti-doping agency where athletes know about upcoming tests in advance and pay bribes to testers.

Nope. If they did they wouldn't fail tests. ADAK works. It's an anti-doping agency tasked with catching dopers actually yielding results. Now USADA/UKAD are anti-doping agencies that don't work. They've failed to catch dopers, meaning they might as well not exist.

Asbel Kiprop knew about the tests in advance.

“his case was complicated when it was revealed he was given advance notice of the visit by Kenyan anti-doping officers — a breach of testing protocol”

He also paid testers bribes, which he claimed he thought was for fuel or tea.

Does that sound like an anti-doping agency that works?

Now, I’m not claiming that USADA or UKAD are perfect. But it’s clear that AKAD has some issues.

LoneStarXC wrote:

El Keniano wrote:

Nope. If they did they wouldn't fail tests. ADAK works. It's an anti-doping agency tasked with catching dopers actually yielding results. Now USADA/UKAD are anti-doping agencies that don't work. They've failed to catch dopers, meaning they might as well not exist.

Asbel Kiprop knew about the tests in advance.

“his case was complicated when it was revealed he was given advance notice of the visit by Kenyan anti-doping officers — a breach of testing protocol”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/sport/general/athletics/asbel-kiprop-doping-ban-olympic-champion-1500m-a8879691.html%3famp

He also paid testers bribes, which he claimed he thought was for fuel or tea.

Does that sound like an anti-doping agency that works?

Now, I’m not claiming that USADA or UKAD are perfect. But it’s clear that AKAD has some issues.

What do you think of that new WADA-accredited PLK in Nairobi? Watching this video it sounds like they mean business. And there not just doing testing in Kenya but also serving Ethiopia, Uganda & Tanzania:

Look at all the provisional-suspensions with Kenya (and the one new Ethiopian case). Also, four (4) ABP cases were charged against Kenyans just in this year (and the lab opened for business late last year). I predict there will be more - the dopers are getting very nervous and the agents are in a quandary. Lol.

The lab is a good thing, but you could have the fanciest lab in the world, but in order for anti-doping to work, the testers still have to be in line. If athletes know about the tests ahead of time, that takes all the meaning out of random OOC tests.

hey el K stop harassing lonestar and answer my questions mr "know it all fake kenyan"

Mooonshot wrote:

Do your friggin job wrote:

Come on letsrun. Do some research for us.

Who is her agent and coach?

She is a minor. Others are equally as guilty in this situation.

Kenyan kids being doped to death doesn't interest

many here. More keen on calling posters racist for raising the problem, or accusing white runners of doping on no evidence whatsoever 40 years ago.

The hardcore doping apologists here, such as Spade Detector, Radison, Ciro, El K, ex-runner etc. Are literally complicit in child murder.

Hahaha complicit in child murder!

Coevett, only you could make such outrageous claims.

Bringing Coe into the discussion already...?

Terrible that coaches are doping kids. Ban the coach, ban the sports management agency.

banned i got wrote:

Down With Doping Apologists! wrote:

+1 ?

hey el K stop harassing lonestar and answer my questions mr "know it all fake kenyan"

el K?? come on now, who coaches her, who is her manager? who is her agent? who does she train with? i know its not al sal giving her roids with his famous "al sals androgel rub down with happy ending" he only gives those to ruppy poop.

banned i got wrote:

banned i got wrote:

hey el K stop harassing lonestar and answer my questions mr "know it all fake kenyan"

el K?? come on now, who coaches her, who is her manager? who is her agent? who does she train with? i know its not al sal giving her roids with his famous "al sals androgel rub down with happy ending" he only gives those to ruppy poop.

dude el k come on man, you know all the ins and outs and the who's who of kenyan running, give us the info bro

Just asked directly to Mr.Demadonna. Athlete doped doesnt work with him!! U are totally wrong!!

ALL Kenyans and Ethiopians should be banned for life. How many is it going to take?

Doped to the Max wrote:

Very sad...Munguti tests positive for an anabolic steroid:

https://www.athleticsintegrity.org/disciplinary-process/provisional-suspensions-in-force

"Presence of a Prohibited Substance (Norandrosterone) (Article 2.1)"

The PLK lab in Nairobi is showing how prevalent doping is in Kenya with all ages and abilities. It's nothing short of a crisis when a 17 year old female is being administered dangerous anabolic steroids!

Ban Kenyan athletics!...enough is enough!

If we should ban Kenya, we should similarly ban Britain and the U.S.A.

A certain coach was banned for four years for malfeasance and crookedness.

El Keniano wrote:

Coevett wrote:

Her agent is Gianni Demadonna.

http://www.athleticskenya.or.ke/contracts/

Another bald-faced lie. The athlete represented by Gianni Demadonna is Angela Jemesunde Tanui.

El K,

I thought I was the only one who couldn't find her name.

This is another attempt by the usual suspect to muddy the waters.

Coevett wrote:

Do your friggin job wrote:

Come on letsrun. Do some research for us.

Who is her agent and coach?

She is a minor. Others are equally as guilty in this situation.

Her agent is Gianni Demadonna.

http://www.athleticskenya.or.ke/contracts/

Coevett,

You have pulled a Trump with your assertion.

If you don't understand what I mean, I am here. I'll explain.