Pete Julian Coached Athletes Will Stick Together in New Training Group -- Ken Goe

Portland Hobby Jogger wrote:

It would be kind of funny if Julian and his crew decamp Beaverton and move to a new base of operations in Boulder. He gets to be home every night and the Gouchers get to see the team with great frequency.

Yes, but Nike wants a tight tether on this thing. How much longer can Knight advocate for the budget this group gets?

codaayyee wrote:

they aren't creating some new training group.

all the article is saying is that the athletes who have been with Pete, are staying with Pete.

btw, Alberto will win the appeal and the group will resume, same as before with some athletes with Pete and some with Alberto

Pretty much, here comes Athletics West 2.0.

Drainthefecesswamp wrote:

He's a Toady wrote:

Has Ken Goe apologized yet for being Al Sal's shameless personal PR flunky in the media for all those decades? This enabler needs to go to prison along with all the NOPers.

Since your comment is somewhat offensive and probably deserves deletion, I've edited what you wrote to have the same point in an inoffensive way.

I agree that Goe was entirely too biased on the side of anything Nike, really no balanced reporting ever has come from him.

Ken Goe’s reporting has always been 100% truth and fact based.

Of course that may not satisfy you unhappy interwebs anonymous cowards I.e., haters and emotionally immature smear mongers.

None of NOP’s athletes have ever tested positive or been credibly accused. Magness, on the other hand...

I will never mention the names of any family member but every man that has kids should be open to discussion of how they treat their kids. It is 100% a measure of character.

Ford Taurus ♉ wrote:

Portland Hobby Jogger wrote:

It would be kind of funny if Julian and his crew decamp Beaverton and move to a new base of operations in Boulder. He gets to be home every night and the Gouchers get to see the team with great frequency.

Yes, but Nike wants a tight tether on this thing. How much longer can Knight advocate for the budget this group gets?

The budget for this group is like 10% of one of their D list basketball guys.

rare wrote:

Ken Goe was for NOP what rojo is to BTC. Both are definitely suck ups and provide biased reporting about the respective group.

^ truth

Mise en scène wrote:

rare wrote:

Ken Goe was for NOP what rojo is to BTC. Both are definitely suck ups and provide biased reporting about the respective group.

^ truth

But Ken Goe is an actual journalist though so I don’t get the comparison. HA HA jk rojo!

Falcon Heene wrote:

codaayyee wrote:

they aren't creating some new training group.

all the article is saying is that the athletes who have been with Pete, are staying with Pete.

btw, Alberto will win the appeal and the group will resume, same as before with some athletes with Pete and some with Alberto

Pretty much, here comes Athletics West 2.0.

Uh, NOP was already Athletics West 2.0

Get Accurate lrc prissies wrote:

Drainthefecesswamp wrote:

Since your comment is somewhat offensive and probably deserves deletion, I've edited what you wrote to have the same point in an inoffensive way.

I agree that Goe was entirely too biased on the side of anything Nike, really no balanced reporting ever has come from him.

Ken Goe’s reporting has always been 100% truth and fact based.

Of course that may not satisfy you unhappy interwebs anonymous cowards I.e., haters and emotionally immature smear mongers.

None of NOP’s athletes have ever tested positive or been credibly accused. Magness, on the other hand...

Hilarious. Goe is a total gentleman of the old school but a total Duck/Nike homer. He’s just been around the program too long, has great access, and it isn’t in his personality to rock the boat. And seriously, in this day and age, using the “never tested positive” excuse? Furthermore, did it escape you that the entire strategy Salazar employed and which led to his ban was finding the exact line he could step right up to with athletes and NOT generate a positive?

"We Try'na Act Like Nothing Happened"

Murphy bed wrote:

Old Zip wrote:

Murphy?

The Murphy that dropped 7 seconds on his 800 m time in college??? That Murphy?

Nope, Rain Murphy who beat the Olympic champion's mile time running on a homemade track.

It's hard to really put into words just how frustrating Ken Goe has been in covering this story. Seeing reporters behave this way is infuriating because they are blatantly using their job title as a shield to shill for their friends.

Alex Salazar to coach new team named "(insert name here) Project."

Dan Browne is retire from the Army.

So the only change to the NOP is they added the "formerly known as" moniker to their name? They will now be "the group formerly known as the Nike Oregon Project," with half of their athletes coached by "the coach formerly known as Alberto Salazar?"

Pete's first IG post is the equivalent of serving a prison sentence and coming out flashing gang signs #OGNOP4lyfe

Anyone who thought this would be something other than a rebrand was kidding themselves. NIKE invested so much money into the group, they're not going to completely disband and destroy everything. They're just going to rename it, announce a new head coach, and move on. Some runners may leave because they were so closely tied to Salazar and not Julian, but otherwise, it'll be business as usual but without that cool looking skull logo.

As for Parker leaving. Also the same thing. It's a rebrand. It'll still be business as usual and with Parker as chairman of the board, he's still going to have a significant amount of control over the direction of the company.

Finally, Kara. She was not treated well on her way out of NIKE by the company or Alberto (according to her). She does not like how the NOP operated after her departure, either. To the extent she thought that the USADA findings and events subsequent were really going to make a large change in professional running, it was wishful thinking at best. NIKE is going to keep up its practices. Its shoes aren't going anywhere and IAAF is soon about to confirm they're rules compliant and permitted in future races. Kara has a right to feel wronged - to an extent. But at some point, she's also going to have to move on to the extent she still carries a strong grudge. I don't follow her social media and can't tell you where she's at right now mentally. But the only times I've heard comments about her posts on the LR homepage is when she's celebrating another runner (which is cool) or somehow trashing NIKE or NIKE runners.

We used to be called Philip Morris - a dirty tobacco company. We're called Altria now! It's totally different.

Alberto Salazar trained Murphy, Hassan, Yomif, Rupp, and Hasay. Brazier even stated that even though they were training partners, that Salazar was murphy's coach.

That's why those runners didn't switch to Julian.