GrizGirls wrote:
SDSU Aztec wrote:
Maybe it's selfish, but as a fan of the sport I just don't care who finishes in in 50th place or if a woman is bumped from the UM XC travelling team.
So when would you care?
I didn't like watching Samenya run.
GrizGirls wrote:
SDSU Aztec wrote:
Maybe it's selfish, but as a fan of the sport I just don't care who finishes in in 50th place or if a woman is bumped from the UM XC travelling team.
So when would you care?
I didn't like watching Samenya run.
At this rate, dudes will hold every chick record in 3 years and chase every girl out of competitive sports in less than 5 years. #GoDudes
Really look at the insanity of it all. A drug created “woman” is “female athlete of the week,” yet the NOP innuendo continues. Which is really more shocking?
Really look at the insanity of it all. A drug created “woman” is “female athlete of the week,” [quote]
Yes. Even if society does get to a point where we find a way to make a males closer in performance to females though drug manipulation, the irony of the progressive movement is that they want us to think also comply with the notion that objective reality doesn't exist. I guess we should get rid of scientific pursuit, as those facts and phenomenon they figure out are simply strong suggestions. Why even take advil or tylenol when you have a headache? You can just insist it isn't a headache as all. It is simply a pleasant feeling love tap. Or better yet, the drugs we use to manipulate people from M to F are simply social constructs. If F is only a social construct, how can June know she is a female? Maybe she was only conditioned to think she was. Yes...insanity.
Looking down the road a little...let's say June gets a top 5 finish @ NCAAs (hard to say anything concrete right now, but the possibility is distinct).
What kind of pro sponsorship would she be looking at? Talk about a hot potato.
Don't believe everything you see in the media, as they can only show the extreme right and left to get ratings. Normal everyday progressives want to allow people to be who they want to be while not taking something away from others. In this case, we want to allow transgenders to do their thing in sport without taking away from women. That's why you are very likely to see the current 12 month sit-out period while taking hormones to transition end up increasing substantially. It takes longer than 12 months to transition. Science knows this. Competing after 1 year of transitioning is not enough time for a transition to take full effect, but we also don't have to make that person sit out for the remainder of their life.
It's funny you brought up taking advil or tylenol when you have a headache. You're talking about taking something because you don't like the way you feel. It's on a dramatically smaller scale, but that's what transgenders undergoing hormone therapy are doing too.
YMMV wrote:
Looking down the road a little...let's say June gets a top 5 finish @ NCAAs (hard to say anything concrete right now, but the possibility is distinct).
What kind of pro sponsorship would she be looking at? Talk about a hot potato.
Nike
AreYouKidding? wrote:
YMMV wrote:
Looking down the road a little...let's say June gets a top 5 finish @ NCAAs (hard to say anything concrete right now, but the possibility is distinct).
What kind of pro sponsorship would she be looking at? Talk about a hot potato.
Nike
It becomes a hot potato only to those unwilling to challenge this nonsense. Cleary weird and wrong in a normal society.
I certainly really hope that she does well. She indeed will be a running shoe marketer’s dream come true.
Oiselle?
The future of female sports is 2nd tier males. Sad.
Don't believe everything you see in the media, as they can only show the extreme right and left to get ratings. Normal everyday progressives want to allow people to be who they want to be while not taking something away from others. In this case, we want to allow transgenders to do their thing in sport without taking away from women. That's why you are very likely to see the current 12 month sit-out period while taking hormones to transition end up increasing substantially. It takes longer than 12 months to transition. Science knows this. Competing after 1 year of transitioning is not enough time for a transition to take full effect, but we also don't have to make that person sit out for the remainder of their life.
It's funny you brought up taking advil or tylenol when you have a headache. You're talking about taking something because you don't like the way you feel. It's on a dramatically smaller scale, but that's what transgenders undergoing hormone therapy are doing too.[/quote]
The issue is the far left/right do dominate policy discussion. They are the loudest and most boisterous. It was the tea baggers with the R's and now the social dimwits for the D's. They don't know a whole lot, but due to moral outrage get everyone to placate to their fiendish demands. I am not arguing we should hold June down for any moral issues. She can and should do what she wants. However, denying reality is another thing altogether. June is a very confused biological male that wants to be a female. We can ease her internal struggle by going along with her suggestion and use feminine pronouns and the like. However, at the outset we all need to be honest and say she is a biological male. She needs to agree with that to be part of the reality club. If we took cells, blood, etc and genotyped her, it would confirm that June is in fact male. So I get live and let live (which is not progressive, but simply a human trait), but part of that is not intruding on what exists in spite of our thoughts or actions. It is seriously like the emperors new clothes. If we all insist June is a woman, that doesn't change the underlying reality. Our environment (cars, streets, trees, and everything else) aren't simply observer defined suggestions. They are real things.
The liberals have declared Jihad against women.
As a woman, I'm so thankful of all the guys who support us.
New York state-certified cross country and track and field official Bill Zwerger:
americanthinker.com/blog/2019/10/male_tops_u_of_montanas_womens_crosscountry_team.html
XXrunnr wrote:
The liberals have declared Jihad against women.
As a woman, I'm so thankful of all the guys who support us.
New York state-certified cross country and track and field official Bill Zwerger:
americanthinker.com/blog/2019/10/male_tops_u_of_montanas_womens_crosscountry_team.htmlthecollegefix.com/big-sky-conference-names-male-runner-female-athlete-of-the-week-leaves-out-hes-transgender/
Hitler and now "Jihad"? Come on.
SDSU Aztec wrote:
XXrunnr wrote:
The liberals have declared Jihad against women.
As a woman, I'm so thankful of all the guys who support us.
New York state-certified cross country and track and field official Bill Zwerger:
americanthinker.com/blog/2019/10/male_tops_u_of_montanas_womens_crosscountry_team.htmlthecollegefix.com/big-sky-conference-names-male-runner-female-athlete-of-the-week-leaves-out-hes-transgender/Hitler and now "Jihad"? Come on.
"a crusade for a principle or belief"
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/jihadWhy you hate women? wrote:
SDSU Aztec wrote:
Hitler and now "Jihad"? Come on.
"a crusade for a principle or belief"
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/jihad
OK, sure,but when the word has generally been used in reference to the desire to murder people.
I'm liberal and feel no contempt towards June or transgender people in general. Have I declared jihad against women?
SDSU Aztec wrote:
I'm liberal and feel no contempt towards June or transgender people in general. Have I declared jihad against women?
If you think biological males should be able to compete in the female category in sports, you kinda are declaring a crusade against women sports.
Basically you are wrote:
SDSU Aztec wrote:
I'm liberal and feel no contempt towards June or transgender people in general. Have I declared jihad against women?
If you think biological males should be able to compete in the female category in sports, you kinda are declaring a crusade against women sports.
I'm not a proponent of transgender females competing in women's sports, but it was litigated over 40 ago and is not going to change. The reaction of many people at that time was similar in that it was believed women's sports were going to be ruined, but it hasn't happened yet and never will.
You're getting yourself worked up over a doomsday scenario that will never happen.
Let's give Jonathan's victims a face: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxZe2zYAjXk
XXrunnr wrote:
Let's give Jonathan's victims a face:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxZe2zYAjXk
I don't believe June is a HS sprinter in Connecticut, but it's not comparable anyway. Those transgender sprinters are not receiving hormone treatment so it's absolutely unfair and they should not be allowed to compete against women.
SDSU Aztec wrote:
XXrunnr wrote:
Let's give Jonathan's victims a face:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxZe2zYAjXkI don't believe June is a HS sprinter in Connecticut, but it's not comparable anyway. Those transgender sprinters are not receiving hormone treatment so it's absolutely unfair and they should not be allowed to compete against women.
The hormones that June has taken have not prevented June from improving June's finishing positions compared to Jonathon's. It is realistic to say the hormones have not leveled the field or else June would be finishing the same places as Jonathon did.
For you, it's acceptable for June to beat women who weren't born with the male advantages of sport because the NCAA says so. It doesn't mean you should support it. Sometimes laws, rules, and guidelines need to be changed. Our country figured that out many times throughout history and it wasn't because everyone went along with something they knew was wrong but acceptable because the constitution said so at one time.