Did world record holder Brigid Kosgei miss three tests?

"world record holder Brigid Kosgei" is premature until ratified by IAAF (World Athletics)

"Kenyans remain the most tested athletes in the world."

Tested by whom? Check-box tea money collectors?

lab resulter wrote:

"Kenyans remain the most tested athletes in the world."

Tested by whom? Check-box tea money collectors?

Tested by the Nike ppl, to determine what the glow lengths will be.

know thy opposition wrote:

lab resulter wrote:

"Kenyans remain the most tested athletes in the world."

Tested by whom? Check-box tea money collectors?

Tested by the Nike ppl, to determine what the glow lengths will be.

No, Rosa bought his own machine a while back.

Slow down you move to fast wrote:

Did she miss the tests within a 12 month period or not? You should have not posted unless you already knew the answer to that question. This is what gives Letsrun a bad name.

I'm an investigative journalist on a website read by hundreds of thousands, including authoritative and knowledgeable people within the athletics world. Do I seek info through that website or do I try and get info from a notoriously suspiciously corrupt organisation in Kenya.

Tough one that.

Slow down you move to fast wrote:

Did she miss the tests within a 12 month period or not? You should have not posted unless you already knew the answer to that question. This is what gives Letsrun a bad name.

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he wouldn't have posted/asked it if he "already knew the answer"

Subway Surfers wrote:

El Keniano wrote:

+1. I honestly question why I returned to posting here. He's just stirring the pot, sowing seeds of doubt about her performance. Such a cheap, low blow. Good job JG. And shouldn't he be asking the IAAF/WADA/AIU instead of trolls on a message board? We've learnt that she's been tested a minimum of 14 times in the last year, that, in itself, is surprising.

Firstly, I doubt this but that is a normal year for Rupp and Ritz and their coach just got busted for doping. They are tested that often because authorities are extremely suspicious of some irregularities in their past samples. Likely a Fancy Bears list v2 contender.

Source? Jack Tuwei has the numbers. Kenyans are more tested than anyone else. You're just a blowhard on a message board.

El Keniano wrote:

Source? Jack Tuwei has the numbers. Kenyans are more tested than anyone else. You're just a blowhard on a message board.

You are curiously attached to the idea that because you are an anonymous poster with a registered handle, your contributions are automatically more worthy of consideration than those by anonymous posters with random handles. The fact is, no one knows for sure who you are or if you're even Kenyan. And even if you posted with a name, it would only attach a specific identity to a long string of embarrassingly biased and hypocritical postings.

El Keniano wrote:

Subway Surfers wrote:

Firstly, I doubt this but that is a normal year for Rupp and Ritz and their coach just got busted for doping. They are tested that often because authorities are extremely suspicious of some irregularities in their past samples. Likely a Fancy Bears list v2 contender.

Source? Jack Tuwei has the numbers. Kenyans are more tested than anyone else. You're just a blowhard on a message board.

I trust absolutely zero that comes out of Kenyan officialdom. Kenyans were tested 1,000 times in 2017, but had 2,000 classified 'elite' athletes, so yes the most tested country, 0.5 times per annum per athlete. All the top 20 male tennis players were tested at least 20 times each last year. And remember, it isn't proper testing if the athlete is given 24 hour notice of a random test.

1. If Kenyans are being tested more than anyone else that is a response to an acknowledged doping problem.

2. It also suggests that Kenyans may well be doping more than anyone else.

3. Kenyans are also being busted for doping violations more than anyone else, which suggests Kenyans are doping more than anyone else.

None of those inferences need be proven to establish that Kenya has serious doping issues and that on the face of it their performances can be trusted to be clean.

Correction - none of their performances can be trusted to be clean.

Also, if she was tested 8 times before London, and 6 times before Chicago. Where's the space to miss 3 within the last 12 months. Logic isn't Letsrun's strong point.

We'll just wait to see if the record gets ratified, in spite of this campaign by Paula's proxies. Meanwhile, my work here is done.

Compact Bus Dealership Special wrote:

El Keniano wrote:

Source? Jack Tuwei has the numbers. Kenyans are more tested than anyone else. You're just a blowhard on a message board.

You are curiously attached to the idea that because you are an anonymous poster with a registered handle, your contributions are automatically more worthy of consideration than those by anonymous posters with random handles. The fact is, no one knows for sure who you are or if you're even Kenyan. And even if you posted with a name, it would only attach a specific identity to a long string of embarrassingly biased and hypocritical postings.

This guy or gal is a blithering buffoon with no credentials or actual confirmed statistics. El K is a straight up bum. He has never confirmed his identity and he or she is no one. This person is as idiotic and as misguided in his patriotism as Donald Trump. What a moron.

In fact this person El Keniano believes every elite Kenyan is clean on the basis of a falsified number of examinations. There is no possible way you can believe that Kipchoge and Kosgei are clean and Radcliffe wasn't. They were all held to completely different standards! They are all dirty. This person is for lack of a better word totally bullshit. El K believes the EPO era was full of cheats but Kipchoge is clean. What hypocrisy.

What a ridiculous scenario. Drug cheat Farah is a nobody and can never reach Goat status yet he beats Kipchoge on the track Kipchoge doesn't even make the team or final. El G the WR holder who is a clear drug cheat and has been beat by Kipchoge. Kipchoge is clean because he is Kenyan. El K is a moron.

Actually it's not. It's the b!tching about it that does. It's the whistleblowers, fans, and mostly the media for wanting these athletes to do amazing things without using the best medicine, training, equipment, or supplement that's out there.

Steroids is what lifts sports to a higher level. Your user name "Armstrong", the tour was never as popular than it was when he was winning it.

Baseball gained tons of fans and made bank off of the Big Mac vs Sosa homerun race.

Track got a resurgence from Bolt doing the impossible.

Soccer with Renaldo and Messi.

The NFL and the NBA are the only descently smart sports that don't really care. Why, because we want to see 6'8" 270 pound men jump so high they're looking down on the rim., dunking everything. Or 230lbs or rbs run 4.4s and make insane plays, throwing their bodies around with reckless abandon.

There are healthy ways to use trt and hgh therapy. If you happen to have not won the genetic lottery and don't want to take anything then that's on you. Finish last. Enjoy slow unexciting sh!t.

Who cares. There are always going to be athletes that have an advantage over another athlete for whatever reasons. The newest ways of tech in training, better equipment, better funding, diet, drs, vitamins, steroids, etc etc etc , or they're just born better. A "level playing field" for all has never existed.

The Core Principles and Values of the Anti-Doping Agency of Kenya (ADAK) are:

Equity and Equality

Impartiality

Integrity, Transparency and Accountability

Inclusiveness

Raddison wrote:

It is not clear from his comments whether the three missed tests were in a twelve month period or a longer period. If they span a period longer than twelve months there is no violation.

Over the course of a 10 year career an athlete could miss 29 tests if he or she got the timing of the missed tests right.

Yes, but it’s still dodgy as f*ck.

Precisely...since the detection rate is so low with anti-doping the more doping violations they get simply means there's a very high number of dopers to catch in the first place. The more dopers a nation has - the chance of dopers getting careless with anti-doping countermeasures goes up exponentially. For example, misjudging glow times, believing a PED is undetectable when it's not, being unfamiliar with or not caring about about the parameter thresholds of your ABP, being available for an OOC test when you're glowing and so on.

You saw that a lot with Morroco (and still do to a certain extent. Lol) with their high number of doping positives over the last two decades, many being for IC positives. Ramzi, for example, was told that 3rd gen CERA was undetectable - which it was for several years including when he used it IC for Beijing. What he didn't expect was that WADA a year later consulted with the manufacturer, Roche, where a test was developed for it. WADA retested his samples for Beijing and it was lights out for him being stripped of his previous gold medal. He had known this or was told that IC samples can be retested down the road with improving technology, he might have shut down his use of CERA prior to Beijing so as to not be glowing (i.e. off-phase).

It's a cat & mouse game with the athletes vs anti-doping...nothing new there.