Very interesting to know his test history. How many did he pass while dopping?
Very interesting to know his test history. How many did he pass while dopping?
yyy wrote:
Very interesting to know his test history. How many did he pass while dopping?
He probably hasn’t been tested much at all. There’s no WADA-approved lab in Ethiopia, and there’s hardly any testing in road races (76% of gold label road race winners aren’t tested OOC).
By my count, roughly 12 of the provisional AIU suspensions are to white athletes, almost all to Ukraine, Russia, and Belorus. I count eight Kenyans, plus two Kenyan-Bahrainis, Jebet and Rop.
Barrel of Laughs wrote:
casual obsever wrote:
Not even sub-13, sub-27, sub-59, or sub-2:05, so, not elite. Doesn't count.
Too funny - I thought this was rekrunner posting. However, since it is for EPO, I'm sure rekrunner will be by shortly to encourage us to not get too excited since EPO "has little or no effect" on elites. ?
How many fücking times are you going to post this thought before you figure out that it is stale, and wasn't actually funny in the first place? You're annoying like a popcorn kernel that gets stuck in the gums.
The Chad wrote:
How many fücking times are you going to post this thought before you figure out that it is stale, and wasn't actually funny in the first place?
Probably for as long as fuckwits like you keep reacting to it.
Just sayin'. wrote:
The Chad wrote:
How many fücking times are you going to post this thought before you figure out that it is stale, and wasn't actually funny in the first place?
Probably for as long as fuckwits like you keep reacting to it.
Or as long as rekrunner himself keeps repeating his stale joke.
I hope not wrote:
yyy wrote:
Do you really think doping in the UK is as widespread as in Kenya?
I hope not. If we are doping with the current level of performances, then our outlook appears even more dismal.
British cycling has the doping down to a T though
Take that, haters of East Africa!
No dope-manufacturing laboratory expertise e.g. Amgen, US creators of EPO.
No dope-masking clinical experts, e.g. Geert Leinders, "doctor" to British Sports federations.
No legal loophole lawyers to get bang-to-rights European doping violations overturned e.g. Mike Morgan and Associates.
No partisan crybaby media apologists e.g. Steve Cram.
Anti-doping is serious business in Africa though!
Umm, El K, you may not want to hear this, but you're off on Kenyan history. I know you think that you're Kenyan, and living out this strange alter ego, but I promise you this was not as successful, objectively, as 2015 in Beijing.
Beijing men's Kenyan performance: 11 medals. 5 golds (1 was in the javelin).
Doha: 5 medals. 2 golds.
Sorry man. I don't speak Swahili and I am located in North America, but I do love this sport.
Sub4sonic wrote:
Take that, haters of East Africa!
No dope-manufacturing laboratory expertise e.g. Amgen, US creators of EPO.
No dope-masking clinical experts, e.g. Geert Leinders, "doctor" to British Sports federations.
No legal loophole lawyers to get bang-to-rights European doping violations overturned e.g. Mike Morgan and Associates.
No partisan crybaby media apologists e.g. Steve Cram.
Anti-doping is serious business in Africa though!
You forgot about the corrupt friends in high places like Diack and co. (or Diack and Coe?) to give a helping hand. After all, Coe was very upset to exit the nike gravy train, under pressure from athletics' purists who saw the obvious conflict of interest - that the president of WADA was receiving millions of dollars from an institution under anti-doping investigation.
Mr Moto wrote:
Sub4sonic wrote:
Take that, haters of East Africa!
No dope-manufacturing laboratory expertise e.g. Amgen, US creators of EPO.
No dope-masking clinical experts, e.g. Geert Leinders, "doctor" to British Sports federations.
No legal loophole lawyers to get bang-to-rights European doping violations overturned e.g. Mike Morgan and Associates.
No partisan crybaby media apologists e.g. Steve Cram.
Anti-doping is serious business in Africa though!
You forgot about the corrupt friends in high places like Diack and co. (or Diack and Coe?) to give a helping hand. After all, Coe was very upset to exit the nike gravy train, under pressure from athletics' purists who saw the obvious conflict of interest - that the president of WADA* was receiving millions of dollars from an institution under anti-doping investigation.
*Not WADA.. World Athletics nee IAAF or whatever the hell it's called now.
Dude...you don't know Kenyan athletics history wrote:
Umm, El K, you may not want to hear this, but you're off on Kenyan history. I know you think that you're Kenyan, and living out this strange alter ego, but I promise you this was not as successful, objectively, as 2015 in Beijing.
Beijing men's Kenyan performance: 11 medals. 5 golds (1 was in the javelin).
Doha: 5 medals. 2 golds.
Sorry man. I don't speak Swahili and I am located in North America, but I do love this sport.
No. Doha: 11 medals, 5 golds. We didn't win the javelin and 400m hurdles this time. But thanks for playing.
https://www.iaaf.org/competitions/iaaf-world-championships/iaaf-world-athletics-championships-doha-2019-6033/medaltablerekrunner wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcjzHMhBtf0
Stupid post. You must cringe every time an elite gets bagged for EPO use - probably drives you insane. Lol. And this cat is a smoker - 27 flat at 19 yrs old! And he's faster than your "clean" controls from the pre-90s era. ?
true. and marocco, algeria and other north african countries.
oliverbrown wrote:
true. and marocco, algeria and other north african countries.
Morocco is less than 15k across the Strait of Gibraltar. Algiers is only a couple of hours flight to France.
doping in uk athletics(and most sports) is rife.its also common across europe,and much worse still in usa. a sizeable number of euro distance runners are on drug cocktails,and theyre not getting caught.i dont think a large number of uk distance runners are on the juice,but some are.it also gets very suspicious when usa and western european athletes arent failing biological passports,and they should be.
jeff tallon wrote:
doping in uk athletics(and most sports) is rife.its also common across europe,and much worse still in usa. a sizeable number of euro distance runners are on drug cocktails,and theyre not getting caught.i dont think a large number of uk distance runners are on the juice,but some are.it also gets very suspicious when usa and western european athletes arent failing biological passports,and they should be.
This is exactly what's happening. It's why I can't stand the sanctimony whenever ADAK brings actual cheaters to book.
90% of the Africans on the elite circuits are doping.
I cringe at the same set of mindless reflexes from those who fail to understand that "proof by example" is a logical fallacy, and one more example has great gossip value, but little substantive argumentative value. With respect to EPO and blood doping, we already knew: - from various studies that at least 12-22% of athletes globally are estimated to blood dope. - Sunday Times leaked some figures like Kenya at 11% and Ethiopia at 8% (below the 14% average). - Ever since Lance Armstrong and elite cycling, we know belief in EPO for endurance events is high, even among smoking 27 minute cats. It is unsurprising that, given predictions that blood doping exists, even in Kenyan and Ethiopia, that some of them will be caught. I see the conversation has once again turn towards the prospect of performance improvement, despite a clear lack of before and after controlled measures. I looked at the AIU site finding no performance figures. I expect Ethiopians to be fast -- my performance analysis clearly showed that historically East Africans were faster in higher quantities and with higher quality than the rest of the world. I never said or implied my pre-90s era times were "clean". Perhaps if I had picked something neutral like VDOT 75, or Purdy 1000, the choice of picking reference performance would have been easier to understand. Don't stop believing.
High-Octane Dopers wrote:
rekrunner wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcjzHMhBtf0Stupid post. You must cringe every time an elite gets bagged for EPO use - probably drives you insane. Lol. And this cat is a smoker - 27 flat at 19 yrs old! And he's faster than your "clean" controls from the pre-90s era. ?
Am I living in the twilight zone? The Boston Marathon weather was terrible!
Is there a rule against attaching a helium balloon to yourself while running a road race?
How rare is it to run a sub 5 minute mile AND bench press 225?
Move over Mark Coogan, Rojo and John Kellogg share their 3 favorite mile workouts
Matt Choi was drinking beer halfway through the Boston Marathon
Mark Coogan says that if you could only do 3 workouts as a 1500m runner you should do these