Exactly, my point is the pro ban arguments are so weak and biased that you must have quite an imagination to call that an objective discussion. Carbon plate should be banned? Where were you guys 20 years ago when they started to put them into track spikes? Zoomx pebax foam should be banned? Why only ZoomX variant, why not all other pebax including that which is put into Asics, Reebok, On etc. Why just pebax? Why not the material that they used for Adios Boost? It was fine all the way until Nike put together a shoe that left all other in dust. Until that no one gave a jack. I honestly believe that IAAF would not be able to ban them because if they would proceed to do it, it would mean that majority of premium running shoes will be off charts. Currently this all looks like a whichhunt.