Does anybody jog in Vaporfly Next%?

At the most popular trail by my house I see a handful of people jogging in Vaporflys each week. They can’t be running faster than 8 or 9 minute pace. Sometimes they walk/jog. I agree that the shoes seem to have a speed limit. If you’re running slower than like 5:30 you should probably run in a different pair of shoes.

no_name wrote:

Josh' wrote:

I'm thinking about doing it. Any first-hand experience?

Yes, I do all my runs in VF4% now, including easy recovery runs. Few months ago I injured my foot and had hard time running in non cushioned shoes. I tried running in VF and it was so much more enjoyable that I never stopped afterwards. Now it's been about 4 months and about 900 miles and counting in them. Honestly I can't imagine my training in other shoes anymore. I even purchased few more pairs on discounts when Next% came out.

What 'non cushioned' shoes did you otherwise wear? NB came out with some during the Vibram craze (although you ain't going to be seen in NB). Are these much-hyped shoes the only 'cushioned' shoes on the market?

no_name wrote:

Josh' wrote:

I'm thinking about doing it. Any first-hand experience?

Yes, I do all my runs in VF4% now, including easy recovery runs. Few months ago I injured my foot and had hard time running in non cushioned shoes. I tried running in VF and it was so much more enjoyable that I never stopped afterwards. Now it's been about 4 months and about 900 miles and counting in them. Honestly I can't imagine my training in other shoes anymore. I even purchased few more pairs on discounts when Next% came out.

Perfect. Cue the rage.

Yup, been wearing the Next% on long training runs at 9:30 to 9:45 pace.

Developed Plantar Fasciitis early this year, podiatrist suggested to try a pair.

I think they really helped the recovery, can't say I actually run any faster....still

old and slow but my foot doesn't hurt like hell after 20 miles.

since two years that i use VF 4% on every single run, never felt better

ShilohDoesntCare wrote:

I watched the Chicago marathon and let me tell you there were plenty of people jogging in VF. A sea of green. Thousands of dollars wasted.

I am running Amsterdam this weekend. This is what I'm curious to see. Will there be hundreds of folk with more money than sense running 7:30 miles in a pair of $300 shoes

FM117 wrote:

Yup, been wearing the Next% on long training runs at 9:30 to 9:45 pace.

Developed Plantar Fasciitis early this year, podiatrist suggested to try a pair.

I think they really helped the recovery, can't say I actually run any faster....still

old and slow but my foot doesn't hurt like hell after 20 miles.

Oh yeah totally. *nudge nudge*

(You’re not fooling me.)

I do on occasion...usually for longer 640 pace tempos or my 22 milers.

Otherwise I like other shoes for shorter slower stuff

Who cares how I spend my money. I work hard and barely spend money on anything.

If I was running in a pair of $250 shoes, I would be running in them every single day!

DeBron Lames wrote:

I mow my yard in mine. Big yard, saves about 5 minutes over other shoes.

Awesome. Just Awesome.

FM117 wrote:

Yup, been wearing the Next% on long training runs at 9:30 to 9:45 pace.

Developed Plantar Fasciitis early this year, podiatrist suggested to try a pair.

I think they really helped the recovery, can't say I actually run any faster....still

old and slow but my foot doesn't hurt like hell after 20 miles.

Still working that 'I've got a note from my doctor' ploy?

This is a lot like cycling--where people with full time jobs throw gobs of money at equipment to improve. In cycling, people 50lbs overweight stress and/or brag that their bike is 14.5 lb versus 15.0 lbs. They would be much better served losing 50 lbs but so be it.

Honestly, why do so many people get so bent out of shape about this stuff? People make money and if the person running 3:30 but works 80hrs/wk and doesnt train can all of a sudden run 3:25 because of these shoes so be it. The great thing about running (unlike cycling) is that 98.5% of the people are only racing against themselves for a good time. Running doesnt cut people out of the race like cycling does.

Monty Hall monitor wrote:

FM117 wrote:

Yup, been wearing the Next% on long training runs at 9:30 to 9:45 pace.

Developed Plantar Fasciitis early this year, podiatrist suggested to try a pair.

I think they really helped the recovery, can't say I actually run any faster....still

old and slow but my foot doesn't hurt like hell after 20 miles.

Still working that 'I've got a note from my doctor' ploy?

Yup, now if I get really lucky maybe my insurance company will even

buy me a pair....you might be on to something with that note from

the doctor crap.

BTW....my foot doesn't hurt!

DeBron Lames wrote:

I mow my yard in mine. Big yard, saves about 5 minutes over other shoes.

This is a hall of famer

won’t people who run only in max shoes (Vaporfly included) develop atrophy in their feet muscles?

then they are more prone to get $hit like plantar fasciitis and then say they need max shoes, then develop more fasciitis and then say they need orthotics and max shoes, then develop complete tear of plantar fascia and say they need crutches

intrinsic muscles wrote:

won’t people who run only in max shoes (Vaporfly included) develop atrophy in their feet muscles?

then they are more prone to get $hit like plantar fasciitis and then say they need max shoes, then develop more fasciitis and then say they need orthotics and max shoes, then develop complete tear of plantar fascia and say they need crutches

you just need a even more cushioned shoes every few months to avoid this

Was everybody bitching about people paying too much for those Newton shoes and their dubious lug technology? At least the Nikes have a proven record with elites. They look a hell of a lot better than the Newtons too.

I jog in these things frequently and don’t seem to have to work as hard to achieve race results at the faster end of what’s possible for me. Of course I get disdainful looks from faster runners. Screw them, I actually own two pairs

I didn't own any specifically cushioned shoes before. I was focused on training in lightweight shoes that don't weight more than 7 oz. So I was kind of used to running in pretty unresponsive shoes all the time. Few pairs were worn out completely and had zero cushioning. I train pretty hard and switching to VF for daily training clearly improved my overall feeling. I have much less problems with stiff leg muscles, have less general fatigue and recover faster after workouts. Not sure if this is attributable to VF but I sure feel better now.

Five Fingers? wrote:

no_name wrote:

Yes, I do all my runs in VF4% now, including easy recovery runs. Few months ago I injured my foot and had hard time running in non cushioned shoes. I tried running in VF and it was so much more enjoyable that I never stopped afterwards. Now it's been about 4 months and about 900 miles and counting in them. Honestly I can't imagine my training in other shoes anymore. I even purchased few more pairs on discounts when Next% came out.

What 'non cushioned' shoes did you otherwise wear? NB came out with some during the Vibram craze (although you ain't going to be seen in NB). Are these much-hyped shoes the only 'cushioned' shoes on the market?

no_name wrote:

I have much less problems with stiff leg muscles, have less general fatigue and recover faster after workouts.

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