Statement from agent Ricky Simms on Galen Rupp/Jordan Hasay DNFs in Chicago

I thought it was funny! wrote:

angryjohnny wrote:

That’s sucks. I feel bad for both of them. I hope they ignore all the haters on these board and make a full recovery in time for the trials.

I hope they don't. Good riddance!

You are a f*ing embarassement to be allowed to spew such hatred, anonimously of course. But worry not.. usually karma is just behind the corner....

KAV wrote:

I thought it was funny! wrote:

I hope they don't. Good riddance!

You are a f*ing embarassement to be allowed to spew such hatred, anonimously of course. But worry not.. usually karma is just behind the corner....

Can you please tell me more about what it's like to be a Buddhist and Buddhism in general? When did you stop being a Christian and turned to Buddhism?

Aussiestatman wrote:

CreditIsDue wrote:

Biggest frustration I have with something like this is that after all the shady things Galen/Hasay have been associated with there are fewer mentions of the amazing performances by Riley/Mock/Bates and instead we talk about these other athletes who abused the system.

I would like to get on this bandwagon

+1

Everyone with an Oregon connection is tainted.

doctorj wrote:

what do you expect? This?

"Galen DNF’d because he can't take the pressure off from the Alberto's scandal. It started immediately after USADA made it public. he kept going because he has a clause in his contract made him run.Right now, he is rte-thinking everything about his running career"

"Jordan felt a sharp pain in her soul after the USADA report and had to stop. She tried to save face but was unable to to so. She is considering becoming a hippie."

Ladies, gentlemen, this was as predictable as it can get.

The thing I miss about being an elite athlete is the racing and the competition.

I can't imagine how boring this is to today's athletes.

Don't finish and they won't test you?

Lolita wrote:

Aussiestatman wrote:

I would like to get on this bandwagon

+1

Everyone with an Oregon connection is tainted.

So you're implying that every Oregon taint is connected??

Alberto, Mo, Rupp, Hasay, Radcliffe

Aussiestatman wrote:

CreditIsDue wrote:

Biggest frustration I have with something like this is that after all the shady things Galen/Hasay have been associated with there are fewer mentions of the amazing performances by Riley/Mock/Bates and instead we talk about these other athletes who abused the system.

I would like to get on this bandwagon

It will be a dismal and depressing bandwagon. But knock yourself out. Good luck and have fun.

I remember a few years ago driving to Portland to see Jordan Hassay run at a track race they threw together last minute in an attempt to hit the Olympic trials standard in the 10,000. I remember watching her warm up on the infield talking with her coach, then going to town on an asthma inhaler and thinking what a bunch of crap. A highly decorated distance athlete suffering from asthma.. hmmm

seeing it up close was interesting and the same as watching Dathan rip a 12:55 5,000 a few weeks after joining the NOP. I believe this was a 17 second PR. If you watch this race online it was a super hero like performance. I wish I was more naive to the sport now and could enjoy it more.

Portland Observer wrote:

I remember a few years ago driving to Portland to see Jordan Hassay run at a track race they threw together last minute in an attempt to hit the Olympic trials standard in the 10,000. I remember watching her warm up on the infield talking with her coach, then going to town on an asthma inhaler and thinking what a bunch of crap. A highly decorated distance athlete suffering from asthma.. hmmm

seeing it up close was interesting and the same as watching Dathan rip a 12:55 5,000 a few weeks after joining the NOP. I believe this was a 17 second PR. If you watch this race online it was a super hero like performance. I wish I was more naive to the sport now and could enjoy it more.

So all I have to do is take a few puffs to run a sub 13?

Damn, son. Sign me up.

Portland Observer wrote:

I remember a few years ago driving to Portland to see Jordan Hassay run at a track race they threw together last minute in an attempt to hit the Olympic trials standard in the 10,000. I remember watching her warm up on the infield talking with her coach, then going to town on an asthma inhaler and thinking what a bunch of crap. A highly decorated distance athlete suffering from asthma.. hmmm

I am curious about the claims of misuse of asthma medications. I asked about this on another thread, but I don't think anyone ever answered, so I'll ask you the same question.

How would an asthma inhaler benefit a person who doesn't have asthma? A corticosteroid inhaler works by decreasing inflammation in the bronchioles. A person who doesn't have asthma or some other pathology wouldn't have inflammation in their bronchioles to begin with, so it seems like the corticosteroids wouldn't be much help. An inhaled beta agonist or muscarinic antagonist works by causing bronchodilation. If you don't have asthma, you'll already be bronchodilated during exercise, so it doesn't seem like there would be any point in taking an additional bronchodilator. In fact, these drugs are taken by inhaler specifically to avoid any systemic affect.

Is there something I'm missing, or is the claim that they're actually taking something other than standard asthma meds under the guise of using an asthma inhaler?

It's specifically banned by oral intake in competition per WADA code so I have to think there is some scientific reason. Maybe someone else can elaborate but I thought I remember there being some research that when combined with some other substance it gave a performance-enhancing benefit.

Does anyone have any pics/video of Rupp at the race? Haven't seen anything

I am curious about the claims of misuse of asthma medications.

It's not just the misuse, but also the use in the first place IMO.

"Elite athletes" in events utilizing aerobic oxygen systems shouldn't be whining about chronic breathing problems in the first place. Especially when such breathing is part and parcel of the event (eg XC skiing in cold dry air conditions).

You might as well declare producing muscle lactate to be a "disease", and claim that taking drugs to prevent it should be TUE-eligible.

But you have to keep the SJWs and Big Pharma happy. So: narrowing of the airway when exercising - woot!

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/oct/14/marcel-kittel-cyclists-severe-asthma-paralympics

GoldenMiles wrote:

Maybe they shouldn’t have picked a cheater coach....

I kinda feel for Galen, since he’s undoubtedly been brainwashed by Salazar since childhood, but dude’s obviously a cheater, and probably has very little life structure without Salazar there.

Because passing judgement when we don’t have all the info is the right thing to do.

Ventolin (albuterol) is a bronchodilator that relaxes muscles in the airways and increases air flow to the lungs.

The last part is the possible benefit to an otherwise healthy athlete.

kw1954 wrote:

Ventolin (albuterol) is a bronchodilator that relaxes muscles in the airways and increases air flow to the lungs.

The last part is the possible benefit to an otherwise healthy athlete.

My understanding is that you're already going to be maximally bronchodilated during exercise anyway, so additional exogenous bronchodilators aren't going to increase airflow any further. If you are healthy, your body already produces all the beta agonists necessary to maximize airflow as soon as you start running hard. Seems like adding albuterol or any other inhaled bronchodilator at that point is just giving your body a stimulus it won't be able to respond to anyway.

" In 17 of 19 randomised placebo-controlled trials in non-asthmatic competitive athletes, performance-enhancing effects of the inhaled beta(2)-agonists formoterol, salbutamol, salmeterol and terbutaline could not be proved. This is particularly true for endurance performance, anaerobic power and strength performance. "

However, the logic there also is, 2 out of 19 can be proved....