Philip Sanga Kimutai Fails Doping Test!

Kenya is picking winners and losers via "doping control". There is a lot of money to be fought over.

true dat wrote:

EssosLandi wrote:

When is Mo Farah getting busted?

Also, the americans have no right to criticize or feel vindicated. With NOP and all the sprinters who tested positive all over the years, America is still the world wide leader of doping across all sport. (Hello Lance)

+1.

Just a couple of days ago since an american olympic medalist swimmer got caught...

Still doping of epidemic proportions in Kenya though.

Makes you wonder why so quiet on the Ethiopion front..

Ethiopia is in exactly the same boat as the US and the UK: no one gets busted therefore everyone's clean, according to their logic. Meanwhile, Kenya, the only country with a demonstrably successful anti-doping system gets vilified left and right. What a joke.

El Keniano wrote:

Ethiopia is in exactly the same boat as the US and the UK: no one gets busted therefore everyone's clean, according to their logic. Meanwhile, Kenya, the only country with a demonstrably successful anti-doping system gets vilified left and right. What a joke.

No you utter imbecile, Ethiopia has a documented doping problem, EPO appears to be even more widely available than in Kenya. The problem is clearly that testing standards are at least as bad as Kenya's, and the athletes can train and hide out at even more remote locations.

However, I'm open to the idea that Ethiopians have a genetic advantage over Kenyans.

It would be ironic if the biggest losers from Kenyan doping over the last 30 years have been clean Ethiopian athletes.

Do you and El Keniano ever get tired in going in circles around each other fighting for your side of the argument?

"You really are a fuckwit El K" That he is.

You really are a fuckwit El K. wrote:

El Keniano wrote:

This man, who I've never heard of, is ranked an inconsequential 268th in the world. And you fakes want to pretend it's big news

I wonder how much money he's taken from clean runners? FMD, he may have even taken money from more deserving clean Kenyan runners, ever thought of that?

But but but wrote:

"Between 2004 and August 2018, 138 Kenyan athletes tested positive

How many competitors are there? Over 10,000 professional athletes in Kenya?

You cannot look at a small percentage of cheaters and then claim Kipchoge must also be cheating. Logic doesn't work that way.

You can have suspicion, but that's not the same as proof.

who? lol. keep trying guys!

not relevant wrote:

who? lol. keep trying guys!

We will El K, we will.

El Keniano wrote:

ShilohDoesntCare wrote:

You're insufferable at times man. He's a doper. Don't defend this man. 2:06 is a very good time. Felix Kandie has a personal best of 2:06:03 and is ranked 53rd in the world. Just ignore these threads otherwise you'll burn yourself out like last time.

He is a nobody. I am tired of dopers ruining my enjoyment of the sport. This man, who I've never heard of, is ranked an inconsequential 268th in the world. And you fakes want to pretend it's big news and that I should start doubting Eliud? Asbel Kiprop was a big deal. Jemima Sumgong was a big deal. Most of the rest, not so much.

+1. I don't know why this is news when the NOP thing is what we need to be paying attention to

El Keniano wrote:

EssosLindi wrote:

It's very hard to blame Kenya on this point. There a enormous pool of athlete and they can't scrutinize all of them. They do catch cheaters, maybe even more efficiently than the americans do, but the talent pool is so big that the less profiles will be tested much less. How many doping testing are there in US at basic school level?

The problem is that these Kenyans from the third or second category in their country are good enough to dominate elsewhere and earn a living.

The article say that it's not state run doping like East Germany nor that it's industrial scale doping like the USA, it's just opportunistic, at athlete level.

WADA described doping in Kenya as largely "opportunistic" and unsophisticated

Not like the indsutrial doping of Balco or NOP.

Thank you!

You left out "endemic". "Opportunistic and unsophisticated" merely suggests it is relatively amateurish.

El Keniano wrote:

Have any of you ever heard of this guy? Be honest.

I have seen a lot of idiots on this forum, yet somehow you still manage to come out on top...

stfu JS wrote:

El Keniano wrote:

Have any of you ever heard of this guy? Be honest.

I have seen a lot of idiots on this forum, yet somehow you still manage to come out on top...

It's called damage control. He sees the Kenyan running dynasty imploded within and he's got to do something out of desperation. ?

Armstronglivs wrote:

El Keniano wrote:

Thank you!

You left out "endemic". "Opportunistic and unsophisticated" merely suggests it is relatively amateurish.

"Amateurish" also implies if they dope, they're likely to get caught. They don't have an OP style operation to help them avoid positives.

El Keniano wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

You left out "endemic". "Opportunistic and unsophisticated" merely suggests it is relatively amateurish.

"Amateurish" also implies if they dope, they're likely to get caught. They don't have an NOP style operation to help them avoid positives.

Correction.

Kenyan Doping Crisis wrote:

stfu JS wrote:

I have seen a lot of idiots on this forum, yet somehow you still manage to come out on top...

It's called damage control. He sees the Kenyan running dynasty imploded within and he's got to do something out of desperation. ?

After the weekend we've just had, he says "Kenyan running dynasty imploded". ?

El Keniano wrote:

After the weekend we've just had, he says "Kenyan running dynasty imploded". ?

Whoa, back up there big mzungu, we haven't had the test results back yet. ?‍⚕️???

El K should just give it up. Many athletes from Kenya are doping and untested. Kenya just had two 5000m males unable to participate in WC because they had not been tested enough. And don't act like Eliud doesn't have the means to dope NOP style he's part of the NN group and has Jos Hermens. They can do anything, they have the resources. I don't personally have anything against Kipchoge or Kosgei, hopefully they are clean but come on man she is a Rosa athlete. Taken at face value it's a phenomenal performance but it can't be taken at face value. Same as Geremew. I'm glad NOP and Salazar are gone it took far too long and I'm sad to say he wasn't nailed for the more serious offenses that I am sure he is guilty of. As annoying as you are El K you are nothing compared to the people on here that defended NOP despite the clear evidence. The whole lot of you just want to wave flags you don't care about the state of clean sport.