That goes without saying. Too bad he didn't listen to our experts here.
That goes without saying. Too bad he didn't listen to our experts here.
2:06:07 guy. Not that fast by today's Kenyan standards.
Let's hope not wrote:
EssosLandi wrote:
When is Mo Farah getting busted?
He better be clean because you wouldn't want that to happen - it would be catastrophic for the sport. Remember he's been Knighted by the Monarchy which something they just don't hand out to anyone. And worst of all - what would happen to the Mobot?
It would become the Muktarbot.
ShilohDoesntCare wrote:
El Keniano wrote:
So he never made any Kenyan team? When was he last in the top 100 in Kenya?
You're insufferable at times man. He's a doper. Don't defend this man. 2:06 is a very good time. Felix Kandie has a personal best of 2:06:03 and is ranked 53rd in the world. Just ignore these threads otherwise you'll burn yourself out like last time.
He is a nobody. I am tired of dopers ruining my enjoyment of the sport. This man, who I've never heard of, is ranked an inconsequential 268th in the world. And you fakes want to pretend it's big news and that I should start doubting Eliud? Asbel Kiprop was a big deal. Jemima Sumgong was a big deal. Most of the rest, not so much.
El Keniano wrote:
ShilohDoesntCare wrote:
You're insufferable at times man. He's a doper. Don't defend this man. 2:06 is a very good time. Felix Kandie has a personal best of 2:06:03 and is ranked 53rd in the world. Just ignore these threads otherwise you'll burn yourself out like last time.
He is a nobody. I am tired of dopers ruining my enjoyment of the sport. This man, who I've never heard of, is ranked an inconsequential 268th in the world. And you fakes want to pretend it's big news and that I should start doubting Eliud? Asbel Kiprop was a big deal. Jemima Sumgong was a big deal. Most of the rest, not so much.
Those new world rankings are meaningless. For example, Roberta Groaner is still only ranked 127th. We need to focus more on the times themselves. 2:06 is an excellent marathon time. Remember, the 2:06 barrier wasn’t broken until 1999. Granted, Khannouchi didn’t have clown shoes to bounce him to fast times, but, still, it’s silly to deny that 2:06 is an elite marathon time.
El Keniano wrote:
This man, who I've never heard of, is ranked an inconsequential 268th in the world. And you fakes want to pretend it's big news
I wonder how much money he's taken from clean runners? FMD, he may have even taken money from more deserving clean Kenyan runners, ever thought of that?
Plenty of money to be made around the world running 2:06/07/08/09 times, enough for a unskilled Kenyan to retire on, work his plot of land, live comfortably and never have to worry about money again.
You really are a fuckwit El K. wrote:
El Keniano wrote:
This man, who I've never heard of, is ranked an inconsequential 268th in the world. And you fakes want to pretend it's big news
I wonder how much money he's taken from clean runners? FMD, he may have even taken money from more deserving clean Kenyan runners, ever thought of that?
There in lies the sad reality, clean Kenyans are training their butts off and doing 2:09 etc and aren't bring rewarded for their honest efforts, hence the bias towards doping.
Remember this article about a lower-tier Kenyan runner who makes a living off the road circuit:
You really are a fuckwit El K. wrote:
El Keniano wrote:
This man, who I've never heard of, is ranked an inconsequential 268th in the world. And you fakes want to pretend it's big news
I wonder how much money he's taken from clean runners? FMD, he may have even taken money from more deserving clean Kenyan runners, ever thought of that?
El K doesn't care about that because he's not Kenyan, just some white weirdo with a fetish for doped up Kenyan runners.
T-Fueled Marathoners wrote:
I wonder if testosterone is making a comeback with marathoners? This year alone there has now been 3 marathoners testing positive for T (Kimutai/Yator/Wangari).
Surely these guys are on EPO too? If so, it's pretty much shows how ineffective the testing still is for EPO, at least in Kenya, when the dopers being caught because of their testosterone use or rat poison injections.
Luv2Run wrote:
Let's hope not wrote:
He better be clean because you wouldn't want that to happen - it would be catastrophic for the sport. Remember he's been Knighted by the Monarchy which something they just don't hand out to anyone. And worst of all - what would happen to the Mobot?
Catastrophic? Not likely. Ben Johnson was popped after winning a gold medal in 1988. Track kept going and growing.
LOL, what planet are you living on? Track has kept growing since the 1980's???
Things are a real mess now wrote:
Remember this article about a lower-tier Kenyan runner who makes a living off the road circuit:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.france24.com/en/20190730-i-cheat-because-others-cheat-kenya-struggles-against-doping
Interesting article:
So it's mostly the second or third grades of runners who avoid scrutinity and testing. The top athlete are tested like everywhere else, but not some hundreds or thousands of runner who are below the Kenyans best and national team.
EssosLindi wrote:
Things are a real mess now wrote:
Remember this article about a lower-tier Kenyan runner who makes a living off the road circuit:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.france24.com/en/20190730-i-cheat-because-others-cheat-kenya-struggles-against-dopingInteresting article:
So it's mostly the second or third grades of runners who avoid scrutinity and testing. The top athlete are tested like everywhere else, but not some hundreds or thousands of runner who are below the Kenyans best and national team.
Exactly. And no other country consistently tests their lower tier athletes so a bit disingenuous to expect hard up Kenya to pony up the cash for that.
Lol. Takes one to know one I guess.
Coevett wrote:
... just some white weirdo with a fetish for doped up Kenyan runners.
Coevett wrote:
You really are a fuckwit El K. wrote:
I wonder how much money he's taken from clean runners? FMD, he may have even taken money from more deserving clean Kenyan runners, ever thought of that?
El K doesn't care about that because he's not Kenyan, just some white weirdo with a fetish for doped up Kenyan runners.
Coevett!!! Fancy meeting you here!
EssosLindi wrote:
Things are a real mess now wrote:
Remember this article about a lower-tier Kenyan runner who makes a living off the road circuit:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.france24.com/en/20190730-i-cheat-because-others-cheat-kenya-struggles-against-dopingInteresting article:
So it's mostly the second or third grades of runners who avoid scrutinity and testing. The top athlete are tested like everywhere else, but not some hundreds or thousands of runner who are below the Kenyans best and national team.
Wrong. Top Kenyan runners don’t get tested at all in their home country. Corruption, bribes, payoffs, etc. people in Kenya have a lot to gain when Kenyan runners win.
Don’t be a fool wrote:
EssosLindi wrote:
Interesting article:
So it's mostly the second or third grades of runners who avoid scrutinity and testing. The top athlete are tested like everywhere else, but not some hundreds or thousands of runner who are below the Kenyans best and national team.
Wrong. Top Kenyan runners don’t get tested at all in their home country. Corruption, bribes, payoffs, etc. people in Kenya have a lot to gain when Kenyan runners win.
It’s not “bribes”! Those poor testers need spending money! Everything is so expensive in Kenya. Tea costs $32! ?
El Keniano wrote:
Exactly. And no other country consistently tests their lower tier athletes so a bit disingenuous to expect hard up Kenya to pony up the cash for that.
It's very hard to blame Kenya on this point. There a enormous pool of athlete and they can't scrutinize all of them. They do catch cheaters, maybe even more efficiently than the americans do, but the talent pool is so big that the less profiles will be tested much less. How many doping testing are there in US at basic school level?
The problem is that these Kenyans from the third or second category in their country are good enough to dominate elsewhere and earn a living.
The article say that it's not state run doping like East Germany nor that it's industrial scale doping like the USA, it's just opportunistic, at athlete level.
WADA described doping in Kenya as largely "opportunistic" and unsophisticated
Not like the indsutrial doping of Balco or NOP.
EssosLindi wrote:
El Keniano wrote:
Exactly. And no other country consistently tests their lower tier athletes so a bit disingenuous to expect hard up Kenya to pony up the cash for that.
It's very hard to blame Kenya on this point. There a enormous pool of athlete and they can't scrutinize all of them. They do catch cheaters, maybe even more efficiently than the americans do, but the talent pool is so big that the less profiles will be tested much less. How many doping testing are there in US at basic school level?
The problem is that these Kenyans from the third or second category in their country are good enough to dominate elsewhere and earn a living.
The article say that it's not state run doping like East Germany nor that it's industrial scale doping like the USA, it's just opportunistic, at athlete level.
WADA described doping in Kenya as largely "opportunistic" and unsophisticated
Not like the indsutrial doping of Balco or NOP.
Thank you!
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