Shoes were worth 20+ seconds.
Whiney Greek boffin guy should go hire Bekele to run 2hr in bare feet.
Austrian wrote:
Shoes were worth 20+ seconds.
30+
Only fair way wrote:
Whiney Greek boffin guy should go hire Bekele to run 2hr in bare feet.
+1. Isn't this the obvious solution to the shoe-wars?
Who cares if it's "fair" or not according to some dreary hater? It's still sub-2:00.
The fact that Yannis didn't graduate from an American university, speaks volumes.
This is the worst case of sour grapes I've ever seen. Here's YP from a 2016 profile:
Nonetheless, Pitsiladis thinks he can shorten that gap by applying the latest research in training, diet, apparel, and genetics to create the ultimate competitive runner.
So YP thought he would lead the charge to crack 2:00 by applying All The Science (and develop a highly marketable line of sports drinks and apparel a long the way). Instead, a major sports apparel company beat him to it by developing a new kind of running shoe, and YP is now yacking about integrity in sport. Uh huh.
Reporters contacted Pitsiladis at home, where he had recently returned, but he was too devastated to comment.
Source:
https://www.businessinsider.com/marathon-world-record-a-scientist-tries-to-break-two-hours-2016-5Nike Shill wrote:
Austrian wrote:
Shoes were worth 20+ seconds.
30+
It makes no more sense for a bouncy shoe to make a runner faster than two pogo sticks. Bouncy simply is not how running works.
All this "energy return" does is push the heel up when it is going up anyway as it follows the forward-moving plant leg. There is nothing gained from this, as the vertical force holding the body up is still exerted on the ground through the toe and the foot and leg above it. Forward acceleration is produced by moving other body parts forward in front of the planted toe.
So what was he doing in Vienna then?
Nike, and then INEOS, did steal their gig and with their funding drying up, they've become completely irrelevant. Remember when one of their athletes turned on them?
Consider this: of the 18 sub-2:04 performers so far, 7 of them got there in 2014 or before, before these "supershoes" existed. Of those seven, all but Geb first broke 2:04 during the 4-year period between 2011 and 2014. Since then, there have been 11 new sub-2:04 guys. 11 in 5 years vs 6 in the previous 4 years is not an unusual progression. Did those 6 in 4 years beat the 1 (Geb) in the previous 4 years because of shoes? No. Marathon runners are getting better, that's all.
2:03 was a plateau for a long time because nobody believed they had enough chance to break the barrier to risk starting fast enough. That's all. Now they've figured out a few runners can hold a 61 minute start, and goals and tactics have been adjusted accordingly. Equipment has nothing to do with it.
Bad Wigins wrote:
Consider this: of the 18 sub-2:04 performers so far, 7 of them got there in 2014 or before, before these "supershoes" existed. Of those seven, all but Geb first broke 2:04 during the 4-year period between 2011 and 2014. Since then, there have been 11 new sub-2:04 guys. 11 in 5 years vs 6 in the previous 4 years is not an unusual progression. Did those 6 in 4 years beat the 1 (Geb) in the previous 4 years because of shoes? No. Marathon runners are getting better, that's all.
2:03 was a plateau for a long time because nobody believed they had enough chance to break the barrier to risk starting fast enough. That's all. Now they've figured out a few runners can hold a 61 minute start, and goals and tactics have been adjusted accordingly. Equipment has nothing to do with it.
7 of the fastest 10 times in history have occurred since Breaking2, as well as 6 of the top 10 times by women. In September this year, Kipchoge’s compatriot Geoffrey Kipsang Kamworor broke the world half-marathon world record (58:01). Two weeks later, 37-year old Ethiopian Kenenisa Bekele was just two seconds shy of breaking Kipchoge’s world record in Berlin, in what most are describing as the greatest marathon comeback in history.
Even Adidas sponsored athletes are wearing Vaporflys and covering them up. The conversation has since shifted to how the shoes make an athlete faster, and, importantly, whether or not they should be banned.
The science is clear – the shoes have a distinct benefit over any others, and were a key driving force behind Kipchoge’s success today, and indeed behind the paradigm shift in marathon running.
What’s next? The all-time lists will continue to be repopulated thanks to the sea of Vaporflys visible at the start line of every marathon. Expectations have entirely shifted,.
Equipment has nothing to do with it.
The NVF shoe improved running economy by 2.6 ± 1.3% compared with the NZM, 4.2 ± 1.2% compared with ADI, and 2.9 ± 1.3% when matched in weight of the ADI shoe.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30374945Only Bad Wigins would deny that beating PR's female record was shoe-related.
I have seen similar info about best shoes on some blogs.
You can see it here https://shoesgraph.com/
RIP: D3 All-American Frank Csorba - who ran 13:56 in March - dead
RENATO can you talk about the preparation of Emile Cairess 2:06
Rest in Peace Adrian Lehmann - 2:11 Swiss marathoner. Dies of heart attack.
Running for Bowerman Track Club used to be cool now its embarrassing
I think Letesenbet Gidey might be trying to break 14 this Saturday
Hats off to my dad. He just ran a 1:42 Half Marathon and turns 75 in 2 months!