Present evidence that she didn't witness it or participate in it. Was she elsewhere? Has she shown medical records?
Present evidence that she didn't witness it or participate in it. Was she elsewhere? Has she shown medical records?
Pretty sure that Hasay has many times bragged about taking multiple questionable supplements. She strongly associated with a then suspected and now proven drug trafficker. I'm going to error on the side of logic here and state that she has lost the presumption of innocence because of her nefarious actions.
She is gullible, stupid or guilty. Choose.
All three is an acceptable choice.
When you use the word "trafficker" it is more than a little misleading. When you pass a joint to your roommate 2 times you are a weed "trafficker" according to the language of the report. This is not a known volume of testosterone exchanged to justify the label "trafficker" without clarification.
Am I wrong on this? the only place i tend to see the word "trafficker" is in the newspaper. And it is used with regard to illegal drugs. Usually the story involves a person who has sold drugs to many many people. I suppose it could be used to refer to someone who has given them to many many people. But of course i think of traffic jams and high volume exchange but mainly big drug busts involving lots of customers. Isn't it very misleading to use the word "trafficker" in the lay press and message board world. Without clarification. When it is in reference to giving testosterone to your sons 2 times?
Present evidence that you have not spent the afternoon stuffing golf balls up your rectum? Got a tue?
This crazy thought just crossed my mind... wrote:
She might be lying... because that's what dopers do... they lie.
One of the major side effects of peds.
The inability to tell the truth
Iain wrote:
Montesquieu wrote:
Hasay joined the Oregon Project in the summer of 2013. Shortly after joining she ran the "B" standard of 31:46 for 10,000. In 2014, with a year at NOP she ran 31:39 (she also ran a 4:07 1500 PR that summer); in 2015, with two years at NOP she ran 32:46; and in 2016, with three full years under her belt at NOP she ran 31:58. In the 5,000 her times for the same years were 15:50, 15:28, 15:45, 15:32.
Now, with a similar time frame of three years, look at many of the women at the Bowerman Track Club--Shelby, Schweizer, Frerichs (add Kincaid to the list). Incredible improvements from college. I mention this not to indict them: great coaching sometimes yields great results. Yet Hasay . . .
So, to Hasay's critics I ask, how does one explain her mediocre track performances, not for one year, not for two years, but for three full years? If it is through performance enhancing drugs that she now succeeds, why didn't she perform better earlier? Shouldn't this give one pause before unqualifiedly accusing her?
Four pages of crap; this and one other post are the only ones worth reading. Thank you Montesquieu
You're welcome.
Anyone who can speak can lie. Though some can't pay attention well enough to be held accountable perhaps. What I am wondering is- At what point does it become a crime to talk trash about people you make no effort to understand? And perhaps the question might broaden- At what point does a message board that capitalizes on conflict to feed traffic to its advertisers become responsible for springboarding slander to a mass audience?
Judge Dread wrote:
Pretty sure that Hasay has many times bragged about taking multiple questionable supplements. She strongly associated with a then suspected and now proven drug trafficker. I'm going to error on the side of logic here and state that she has lost the presumption of innocence because of her nefarious actions.
Please cite a source for this. ‘Pretty sure’ doesn’t mean much.
She needs Coach JS ! The future man of running…..
Ggggg wrote:
You don’t run 32 minutes for 10k and 1:07 for half and 2:20 for the marathon. She made a suspicious significant improvement around 2016-17, and hasn’t run 10k or 5k since then, but if she had you would have seen a result closer to 30 minutes, because that’s what a 1:07 and 2:20 runs. Comprende?
Naoko Takahashi ran a high-31 (31:47, v.s Hasay 31:39), 1:07 and a 2:19. And the 4%, which I assume help narrow the gap between marathon and shorter distances, didn't even exist back then.
And apparently like Sisson and many Japanese marathoners, Hasay is an "endurance monster", so I don't think her 2:20 raises eyebrows in itself.
Dwightarm wrote:
Judge Dread wrote:
Pretty sure that Hasay has many times bragged about taking multiple questionable supplements. She strongly associated with a then suspected and now proven drug trafficker. I'm going to error on the side of logic here and state that she has lost the presumption of innocence because of her nefarious actions.
Please cite a source for this. ‘Pretty sure’ doesn’t mean much.
+1
Doping NOPers wrote:
Present evidence that she didn't witness it or participate in it. Was she elsewhere? Has she shown medical records?
That's private. -Jenny Simpson
George213 wrote:
Dwightarm wrote:
Please cite a source for this. ‘Pretty sure’ doesn’t mean much.
+1
Sure that she did.
Check out Hasay's facebook page, arm in arm with her fellow doping cheater Bobblehead Radcliffe.
https://www.facebook.com/jordan.hasay/?ref=py_chttps://www.thorne.com/take-5-daily/article/my-thorne-story-long-distance-runner-jordan-hasay“I love Thorne’s Catalyte to keep me hydrated,* so I sip on that all day. Also, while traveling I use extra Thorne Ascorbic Acid to support my immune system.* I also use Thorne’s Multi-Vitamin Elite, Super EPA, Meriva 500-SF, and Vitamin D as regimen staples to make sure I’m getting all my essential nutrients.* I love Thorne products because they are NSF Certified for Sport®, so I feel really confident in what I’m putting in my body. I have zero worries about contamination.”
For marathon training, Jordan is also a huge fan of Thorne’s RecoveryPro. She said it’s one of her nightly staples. “With my training, I need a snack before bed and Recoverypro is great to mix with yogurt or milk – plus it has magnesium which helps with sleep.”*
Jordan told us that after a year of supplementing with Thorne products, she is definitely noticing a difference.
“I am able to recover much faster and also handle longer workouts with more ease thanks to being properly fueled and having all my bases covered in terms of overall health. I am so thankful!”
My name is Jordan. I am bulimic.
Absurd logic. Why would peds help you in some distances but not others?
Attention. We don't not need and will not condone logic hear. Don't go wasting my time with your reasons. It is every man woman and child's right to a speedy trial by message board and media. Your career is not worth a sh#t. We deal in high volume assumption. Which in fact preempts the triviality of facts. suck it
of course a tidy place like this won't let me post the word sh it. But I can say anything about any person's life with total disregard for evidence.
plenty of evidence that Hasay is a doper
Jakob Ingebrigtsen has a 1989 Ferrari 348 GTB and he's just put in paperwork to upgrade it
Is there a rule against attaching a helium balloon to yourself while running a road race?
How rare is it to run a sub 5 minute mile AND bench press 225?
Am I living in the twilight zone? The Boston Marathon weather was terrible!
Mark Coogan says that if you could only do 3 workouts as a 1500m runner you should do these
Move over Mark Coogan, Rojo and John Kellogg share their 3 favorite mile workouts