Psychiatrists are not real doctors

I don't know why, but I believe Sigmund Freud said that psychoanalysis didn't work on the Irish....

The Irish get their analysis from confession and alcohol..... no need for the shrinks.

The Realness wrote:

AP5000 wrote:

It's weird that they all have to go to medical school and all have an M.D.

You know that having a piece of paper awarded by an academic institution doesn’t legitimatize anything, right?

Hahahahahahahaha!

If ignorance is bliss, the troll that started this thread is supremely blissful.

Many MDs today are lazy drug pushers who don't know the first thing about preventative care and nutrition. It's up to all of us to be our own health advocates.

The Realness wrote:

AP5000 wrote:

It's weird that they all have to go to medical school and all have an M.D.

You know that having a piece of paper awarded by an academic institution doesn’t legitimatize anything, right?

That's LITERALLY what legitimizes it and nothing else

letsrun trifecta wrote:

And guess what, they're all MDs when they are done! Wow what concept.

And horse doctors and unicorn doctors are all veterinarians! Nope. Learning horse veterinary doesn't make unicorn veterinary real.

In this sense, psychiatrists are much worse than the other quacks, who at least didn't learn real medicine first before embarking on their careers of destructive nonsense, and have no veneer of legitimacy.

Good times are killing me wrote:

You know that in this case it does, right?

In no case does a university degree or license from the government legitimatize a discipline. The fact that psychiatrists completed medical school and residency does not in any way prove that prevailing psychiatric theories and treatments are scientifically valid. University educators can be wrong. Government regulators can be corrupt and incompetent. You have to be a complete and total failure of a human being to believe in psychiatry just because practicing psychiatrists fulfilled the legal requirements to qualify as “physicians” in the eyes of politicians and bureaucrats.

OP, I believe you might be correct. But what is also absolutely 100% factually accurate and correct is that Dems are REAL leftists. Everybody agrees.

But we do know that...... wrote:

OP, I believe you might be correct. But what is also absolutely 100% factually accurate and correct is that Dems are REAL leftists. Everybody agrees.

and yet it is the right winger side that want to control individual activities and limit their Rights. The republicans are the Deep State. That is why the big Cheeto loves dictator affection. Dad did not show him enough love. But, I'm no shrink

The Realness - You have made your case poorly. You may need additional audits, and perhaps a sea cruise.

Guivghjjj wrote:

The Realness wrote:

You know that having a piece of paper awarded by an academic institution doesn’t legitimatize anything, right?

That's LITERALLY what legitimizes it and nothing else

Not all disciplines offered by academic institutions are backed by legitimate science. Many disciplines are heavily corrupted by heirarchies of authority, cultural dominance of dogmas, echo chambers, politics, political control of funding sources, private interests in control of funding sources, etc... true science is rare.

"A new scientific truth does not triumph by persuading its opponents and getting them to admit their errors, but rather by its opponents gradually dying out and giving way to a new generation that is raised on it." ~ Max Planck

Johnson & Johnson has to pay $8 billion after male breast growth linked to antipsychotic drug, jury says

No liability for the psychiatrist who prescribed it? No wonder doctors dish out drugs without worry!

I agree with what you are saying. The issue is that since most people don't, a sane person would go about their business in a much more productive way that ranting about it on letsrun.com. Its obvious that a Psychiatrist told you you're crazy. And while I agree that Psychiatry is mostly BS, everyone on this forum can tell without even meeting you that you are insane. Good luck out there.

The Realness wrote:

In no case does a university degree or license from the government legitimatize a discipline. The fact that psychiatrists completed medical school and residency does not in any way prove that prevailing psychiatric theories and treatments are scientifically valid. University educators can be wrong. Government regulators can be corrupt and incompetent. You have to be a complete and total failure of a human being to believe in psychiatry just because practicing psychiatrists fulfilled the legal requirements to qualify as “physicians” in the eyes of politicians and bureaucrats.

You seem to be confusing "legitimacy" with something like "effective," "close to the truth," etc.

In the long run, a field that proves itself ineffective, based upon lies, etc. *might* lose legitimacy, either through a legal-rational process of changing standards of accreditation or through a loss of faith in the public, which would probably trigger the former anyway.

As it stands, there's every reason to believe psychiatrists are "legitimate." The system of accreditations is all there, there are licensing bodies, exams, boards, professional societies, and numerous interlocking social relationships between organizations like schools, prisons, etc. which rely upon the services provides by the head-shrinkers. They're legitimate, brother.

No true Scotsman is a psychiatrist.

Discus.

On the contrary, many patients today are lazy humans who don't know the first thing about diet and exercise and make no moves to make those lifestyle changes when told to. *shrug*

English majors aren't real college students.

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Big Red wrote:

If ignorance is bliss, the troll that started this thread is supremely blissful.

Many MDs today are lazy drug pushers who don't know the first thing about preventative care and nutrition. It's up to all of us to be our own health advocates.

I mean, as an anesthesiologist, I try to be as lazy while pushing drugs as possible. Sometimes I even sit down behind my little drape while doing it...

GasMD wrote:

Big Red wrote:

If ignorance is bliss, the troll that started this thread is supremely blissful.

Many MDs today are lazy drug pushers who don't know the first thing about preventative care and nutrition. It's up to all of us to be our own health advocates.

I mean, as an anesthesiologist, I try to be as lazy while pushing drugs as possible. Sometimes I even sit down behind my little drape while doing it...

You don’t fool me....

The Realness wrote:

Psychiatrists are as much real doctors as are chiropractors, homeopaths, and African shamen. Being a real doctor mean having actual medical skills, which psychiatrists don’t. Their discipline is a modern pseudoscience, something that could only become widely accepted as legitimate in a wildly irrational society largely unconcerned with logic. While other disciplines were advancing with genetics and biochemistry, in psychiatry, creepy academics and bureaucrats with deep ties to the FDA-regulated drug industry sat around on committees and voted the illnesses they would treat into existence.

Technically anyone with a doctorate degree is a doctor. It's a simple definition.

If you want to change the definition of words, then that's a personal problem.

Rick and Morty had a good episode about psychiatrists. It's the Pickle Rick episode.

It sounds like a psychiatrist told your spouse to leave you so you are angry because your now, or soon to be, ex-spouse told you it's good to listen to the doctor. Or you flunked out of school. In either case, you are upset at your own shortcomings. It's ok to be happy for other people. Move on. Let it go.