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Psychiatrists are as much real doctors as are chiropractors, homeopaths, and African shamen. Being a real doctor mean having actual medical skills, which psychiatrists don’t. Their discipline is a modern pseudoscience, something that could only become widely accepted as legitimate in a wildly irrational society largely unconcerned with logic. While other disciplines were advancing with genetics and biochemistry, in psychiatry, creepy academics and bureaucrats with deep ties to the FDA-regulated drug industry sat around on committees and voted the illnesses they would treat into existence.
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It's weird that they all have to go to medical school and all have an M.D.
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I’m sensing you’re feeling some deep rooted resentment, tell me about your childhood (sits back in chair, takes out notepad).
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AP5000 wrote:
It's weird that they all have to go to medical school and all have an M.D.
You know that having a piece of paper awarded by an academic institution doesn’t legitimatize anything, right? -
These types of informative topics are why I come here. Awesome post OP
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Naw, but the tests they have to take and medical boards they must pass sure do.
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true, except singling out just the African shamen comes across as racist.
less seriously, not mentioning the shawomen is sexist.
also most shamen and shawomen are more doctors than the others you mentioned, because in addition to their magic most can do real things like set broken bones, deliver babies, heal wounds, and prepare and administer effective drugs. -
Is the OP confusing Psychiatrists with Psychologists?
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psychologists confuse psychiatrists and anyone else foolish enough to go near them.
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The Realness wrote:
Psychiatrists are as much real doctors as are chiropractors, homeopaths, and African shamen. Being a real doctor mean having actual medical skills, which psychiatrists don’t. Their discipline is a modern pseudoscience, something that could only become widely accepted as legitimate in a wildly irrational society largely unconcerned with logic. While other disciplines were advancing with genetics and biochemistry, in psychiatry, creepy academics and bureaucrats with deep ties to the FDA-regulated drug industry sat around on committees and voted the illnesses they would treat into existence.
Medicine and the biological sciences are unfortunately not perfect in terms of giving us cures to diseases and illnesses that we suffer from. They are constantly evolving largely as a result of the findings of scientific and clinical research. Hopefully these changes can be of benefit to us all but yes sometimes the pharma and biotech industries do cynically make money out of the disease market with some ineffective or even harmful treatments. At the moment it is unrealistic to expect all fields of science and medicine to give us the perfect cure for all of the diseases and ilnesses we suffer from and sadly the best case scenario right now is that we grow old, suffer physically and ultimately die from one disease or another. I have to say that from my experiences as a runner, sports medicine phyisicians have been particularly useless in treating the ailments they are supposed to manage but maybe I have been unlucky with those I have encountered. -
Chiropractors have more classroom time than medical doctors.
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That’s because chiropractors don’t learn as quickly. That’s expected of the special kids who road the short bus.
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The Realness wrote:
Psychiatrists are as much real doctors as are chiropractors, homeopaths, and African shamen. Being a real doctor mean having actual medical skills, which psychiatrists don’t. Their discipline is a modern pseudoscience, something that could only become widely accepted as legitimate in a wildly irrational society largely unconcerned with logic. While other disciplines were advancing with genetics and biochemistry, in psychiatry, creepy academics and bureaucrats with deep ties to the FDA-regulated drug industry sat around on committees and voted the illnesses they would treat into existence.
You either have a mental health problem that you refuse to acknowledge, or you're a Scientologist, but I repeat myself. -
Orthopedic surgeons are not REAL doctors.
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I get it. Psychiatry isn't a tangible discipline like infectious disease or broken bones. It's not real much like your passion for running isn't real, your thoughts aren't real, your mother's love for you isn't real.
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Psychiatrists are real doctors.
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The Realness wrote:
AP5000 wrote:
It's weird that they all have to go to medical school and all have an M.D.
You know that having a piece of paper awarded by an academic institution doesn’t legitimatize anything, right?
You're Definitely a neck-bearded, vaping nobody that called his friends idiots for going to college while sitting at home, working his "rich" $17/hr. job. -
Wiggins, Vix, and Hardloper in the same thread, all but denying an actual medical field in which the practitioners must go through the same first four years of training as all MDs. And guess what, they're all MDs when they are done! Wow what concept.
All we need now is jamin.
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There is definitely a lot of room to criticize the behavioral side of the mental health world. There is even a growing movement to through out how the DSM 5 is used based on growing evidence that there is no such thing as a singular mental health diagnosis. For example, people suffering from schizophrenia have been successfully treated only to then commit suicide because they were also suffering from depression which wasn't treated. Thus, using a manual to diagnose and treat is inadequate because people with mental health issues almost never suffer from a single, monolithic issue. Mental health problems are more like a broad continuum of interrelated problems.
But there is a ton of science behind psychiatry and they are deserving of the Dr. I have seen psychiatric intervention be the difference between life and death. My wife's uncle was in Vietnam and probably went through most of his life with undiagnosed PTSD. He was a photographer for Stars and Stripes and was always on the front lines taking pictures of the dead and dying. After nearly killing himself with alcohol, he finally went and got treatment with a VA psychiatrist. Within six months, he stopped drinking, reconciled with a bunch of estranged family members, and was finally able to deal with his war experience without harming himself or others physically and emotionally. -
Let me guess: you are a Scientologist, right?
Last time I checked psychiatrists go to medical school, take the exact same medical license exams, have to go through the match process and do residency.
You sir, are just an obvious simpleton with the IQ of a moth.
