Nike will back Alberto Salazar Appeal , the gloves are coming off.

Of course Nike is backing Salazar, you dimwit. They're implicated in all of this.

nike can name a building after the doping cheater sleazy sal

just like they named buildings after

the pedophile joepa

and the cheating doper armstrong

Nike thinks it's too big to fail, but maybe enough people will be become fed up with their sith and drain the swamp.

The appeal, behind closed doors will go something like this:

Nike > "Who pays your bills? We know Nike athletes X, Y, & Z all tested positive and you covered it up per our arrangement. We know you feel this suspension makes you look a little more arbitrary and you feel it returns a shred of your credibility. However, we do not want this. Publically, make it go away and go away fast or expect the gravy train to dry up ."

That is about as much of "the gloves are coming off" as can be expected using hindsight as a guide.

Truth is Here wrote:

Of course Nike is backing Salazar, you dimwit. They're implicated in all of this.

Implicated in what exactly????

No athletes were doped. None have even been accused of being doped with any sort of specific accusation other than "SHADY STUFF".

No athlete has tested positive.

The whistle has been blown on NOTHING of substance.

Pushing athletes to get medications? this is the smoking gun? Thyroid meds? Sure I don't like it, FINE him give him a warning etc....

This has turned into a joke of an investigation, Tygart got a rager over Armstrong and was looking to bag another Unicorn so he can write a book.

Nike CEO Mark Parker was directly implicated. Of course they're going to appeal. The last time Nike paid for a doping appeal was the Mary Slaney case. That didn't go too well did it?

Tag this thread. The Ban will be overturned quickly , as it should .

Bruyneel's appeal took something like 5 years to run its course and resulted in bumping his ban from 10 years to Lifetime.

Not sure of Salazar's appeal process, but his 4-Year Prohibition could be over before the case is.

Ernest wrote:

Bruyneel's appeal took something like 5 years to run its course and resulted in bumping his ban from 10 years to Lifetime.

Not sure of Salazar's appeal process, but his 4-Year Prohibition could be over before the case is.

Indeed. I've said this before: both Salazar and Nike, and especially the athletes, should be happy that only the 61 year old coach got a ban. Without blaming anyone else for anything except for Magness. Appealing this might backfire. We'll see.

What I understand is the appeal is only on material presented in the case. USADA don't have the ability to " add stuff " . If no current athletes are involved , they cannot be added in as a second thought . So at this point , the only person involved is Magness. Kara already stated she wasn't doping.

That's probably true, but the Charging Letter made more accusations. I'm pretty sure an appeal would result in checking all of the panel's decisions, those agreeing with Usada and those agreeing with Salazar.

Flying Carpet Salesman wrote:

Truth is Here wrote:

Of course Nike is backing Salazar, you dimwit. They're implicated in all of this.

Hey butthead, don't call me a dimwit as I'm only stating the obvious and bragging out tagging it. EVERYONE knew there'd be an appeal, no surprise there, but...I get the credit you dimwitted peabrain.

Ok, sorry man.

Flying Carpet Salesman wrote:

Truth is Here wrote:

Of course Nike is backing Salazar, you dimwit. They're implicated in all of this.

Hey butthead, don't call me a dimwit as I'm only stating the obvious and bragging out tagging it. EVERYONE knew there'd be an appeal, no surprise there, but...I get the credit you dimwitted peabrain.

you are a dimwit.

Opinionated guy wrote:

The appeal, behind closed doors will go something like this:

Nike > "Who pays your bills? We know Nike athletes X, Y, & Z all tested positive and you covered it up per our arrangement. We know you feel this suspension makes you look a little more arbitrary and you feel it returns a shred of your credibility. However, we do not want this. Publically, make it go away and go away fast or expect the gravy train to dry up ."

That is about as much of "the gloves are coming off" as can be expected using hindsight as a guide.

This is the stupidest take on this so far. kara/Adam?

It won’t matter if it’s overturned, the general public doesn’t care about any of that. Saladbar can’t get his good name back at this point, he might win the battle but he already lost the war. Not to mention that he’ll have USADA up his azz continuously and any of his athletes registering amazing performances will get called out for it. Both he and Nike should pay attention to the age old advice that the first thing to do when you find yourself in a hole is to stop digging.

Nike . . . LOL . . . the same group that launch a fake lawsuit against Mt. Sac to pry the 2020 Olympic T&F Trials away from them, and bring them, once again, to Nikeland. Immediately after the USAFT bent over for whining Nike and gave them the candy (the trials), the lawsuit was dropped. The lawsuit was intended to stop or delay construction of the new stadium at Mt. Sac.

Meanwhile, the Mt. Sac stadium construction time-lapse cam shows the stadium is well on the way to completion well before Nike's hired local lawyer claimed. The stands are up. The infield turf is in. The base for the new track is in place.

https://my.mtsac.edu/construction/livecam.html

https://timesofsandiego.com/sports/2018/03/28/lawyer-mt-sac-will-never-finish-stadium-in-time-for-2020-olympic-trials/

Jerry Maguire wrote:

Truth is Here wrote:

Of course Nike is backing Salazar, you dimwit. They're implicated in all of this.

Implicated in what exactly????

No athletes were doped. None have even been accused of being doped with any sort of specific accusation other than "SHADY STUFF".

No athlete has tested positive.

The whistle has been blown on NOTHING of substance.

Pushing athletes to get medications? this is the smoking gun? Thyroid meds? Sure I don't like it, FINE him give him a warning etc....

This has turned into a joke of an investigation, Tygart got a rager over Armstrong and was looking to bag another Unicorn so he can write a book.

Close. The athletes haven't been accused of anything.

Salazar clearly has. He broke the rules. His athletes? No evidence yet to suggest they did.

Okay couple of things

1) Of course Nike are backing him - what else are they going to do? Fire him? Riiiight - because what happens then is Alberto just releases emails, texts, everything that has gone on between those walls involving himself, Matt, Phil, Cap - f%$king all of them. And the reality is Nike are backing him not because they probably even like or care for him - it's because the other option is simply bad for business.

2) I'm kind of interested to understand the "none of his athletes have tested positive for anything so what has he done wrong anyways" narrative. I mean we are at least all in agreement he was doing SOMETHING right? I mean he's an athletic coach who is employed to make his athletes better and has been involved in actions (deemed illegal) that make athletes better. I mean he isn't conducting experiments on his son, working closely with doctors and behaving like a mad scientist with anything he possibly believes improves athletic performance for the sake of his f%$king memoirs okay?

And of course not all of the NOP cheat, as I said in another post and as Kara Goucher alluded to in her "testimony", it's only with a select group of athletes where the benefit to Nike the brand outweighs the risk of what's going on. That's why you saw Galens name on charts mapping his testosterone that were updated daily, why Mo (forgot he) had a vial of adrenaline in his backpack at airport security going through Heathrow back in 2012, why Ritz ran 12.56 despite being a 13.10 talent and why Matthew Centrowitz left a coach that took him to an Olympic title at the age of 26.

Okay, none of his athletes fail drug tests. But all of them essentially have the best of every important biochemical metric that you need to be good distance runners. All have maximum hematocrit and testosterone levels as allowable by law, boosted by artificial means. All have thyroid conditions, all have asthma - all things that require performance enhancing substances to control.

So my ultimate question is to those of you supporting this, those of you who believe this is an unjust witch-hunt, is there any value to you whatsoever in the concept of natural human sport? And by this I mean the inherent physiological differences that each and every one of possess that make us unique as humans and athletes - that someone may have naturally high testosterone but low hematocrit and vice versa. That someones lung capillaries absorb more than others, yet have a lower VO2 max, and vice versa. That it's the combination and compromise our bodies have and make along with how we attempt to evolve it through athletic activity is the real essence of sport and human competition.

Because if we all have maxed out testosterone, hematocrit, oxygen uptake, VO2max, vVO2max and everything else we can manipulate to the point of scientific plausibility then what the f%$k is exactly supposed to make sport interesting? What is the difference between running and robot wars? If everybody could do what Nike, Alberto Salazar and the NOP do is it really interesting anymore? I think if we ever got to that you may change your minds.

But please, feel free to answer my question - I'd love to know the answer.

Nike wrote:

Nike does not condone the use of banned substances in any manner.

Since when Testosterone is not a banned substance and/or Alberto did not use it "in any manner"?

Did they actually read the report before backing the appeal and issuing that statement?

Is it the same reading skills that had them convinced that they can claim 4% improvement from their shoes?