Hopefully Jakob and his father have realized that you can't run the 5000m in Doha, trying to beat juiced to the gills Epiopians, and then be surprised when you're too tired to prevent yourself being robbed of a medal in the 1500m 3 days later by a doped to the gills Algerian.
https://www.newsinenglish.no/2019/10/06/tragic-for-the-young-ingebrigtsen/
Let's see what happens with the post testing results. Could be some medals revisions.
unfortunately, I doubt the dopers will get caught:(
yyy wrote:
unfortunately, I doubt the dopers will get caught:(
I doubt so too, we unfortunately won't get rid of that annoying norwegian family :(.
It's funny how bad Doha went for them though. Jakob didn't medal in a 1500m race which was designed for him, he has to be totally embarrased to get beaten by Lewandoski in a fast race. Also I understand why he did the 5k (will be his future distance), but for some reason he miserably failed there too.
gjert goes home devasted wrote:
yyy wrote:
unfortunately, I doubt the dopers will get caught:(
I doubt so too, we unfortunately won't get rid of that annoying norwegian family :(.
It's funny how bad Doha went for them though. Jakob didn't medal in a 1500m race which was designed for him, he has to be totally embarrased to get beaten by Lewandoski in a fast race. Also I understand why he did the 5k (will be his future distance), but for some reason he miserably failed there too.
+1
gjert goes home devasted wrote:
yyy wrote:
unfortunately, I doubt the dopers will get caught:(
I doubt so too, we unfortunately won't get rid of that annoying norwegian family :(.
It's funny how bad Doha went for them though. Jakob didn't medal in a 1500m race which was designed for him, he has to be totally embarrased to get beaten by Lewandoski in a fast race. Also I understand why he did the 5k (will be his future distance), but for some reason he miserably failed there too.
I think you're being a bit harsh. They ran well, it was just a very high level of competition amongst the very best athletes the world has ever seen. Getting a medal is extremely tough, it is hard for us to understand.
this ugly, doped beyond the gills norvegtrash should just go away. no charisma, no redeeming qualities of any kind. disgusting
Gjert tries to influence the program for next years Olympic games in an effort to be able to run both 1500m and 5k. Seems like they enjoy competing more then boosting their chance of winning.
gjert goes home devasted wrote:
yyy wrote:
unfortunately, I doubt the dopers will get caught:(
I doubt so too, we unfortunately won't get rid of that annoying norwegian family :(.
It's funny how bad Doha went for them though. Jakob didn't medal in a 1500m race which was designed for him, he has to be totally embarrased to get beaten by Lewandoski in a fast race. Also I understand why he did the 5k (will be his future distance), but for some reason he miserably failed there too.
Lewandowski is a true competitor. He knows exactly what he is capable of doing, and how he should race. Same with Cheruiyot and Makhloufi. Those who deserve the medals the most got them. Racing isn't just about VO2MAX and lactate threshold values, it's about strategy, mental strength and knowing how to perform in competitive races.
Ingebrigtsen has the aerobic engine (talent/doping(?)), but he is always lost in races and got no clue what he should be doing. He always looks what others are doing, and is always reactive and never pro-active. In Monaco he was in 3:29 shape, but he decides to just run behind Cheriyout and let him decide the race instead of taking a heart and hammering himself one time. His biggest moves in races were when he broke rules to his own advantage, either by pushing other runners or passing on the inside, outside of the track.
Also, it's not the Ethiopians that are doped, but rather the Norwegians or US runners associated with a Nike group. They have always been good in running, don't need fancy grey area stuff like thyroid hormones, testo gels, calcium toothpastes or L-carnitine infusions, and focus on training and running hard at altitude. When an Ethiopian dopes, they become what Hassan became, absolutely unbeatable and WAY over the top.
I sincerely hope that at whatever level you are competing at, you are getting tested.
Come on Coevett. Jakob been beating Lewandowski all year easily and then when it mattered he failed to deliver. This is a big failure. No doubt if Cheryuiot got beaten you'd claim it was for all kinds of doping related reasons.
I am happy he didn't medal. What an arrogant prick:
“This is one of the worst things I’ve been involved in,” continued Jakob in his diatribe on NRK. He claimed he’d lost “against folks I should have beat,” adding that he wished “I could stand here and prove that the others were worse than me.” He concluded by saying he was “just so sad about the result.”
ex-runner wrote:
Come on Coevett. Jakob been beating Lewandowski all year easily and then when it mattered he failed to deliver. This is a big failure. No doubt if Cheryuiot got beaten you'd claim it was for all kinds of doping related reasons.
Eh. I'm sure Lewandowski has beaten Jakob at least twice, including in the European indoor final.
If Cheryuiot had ran in the 5000m, in a fast final, 3 days before, no I wouldn't have been surprised at all if he hadn't won.
This was nothing to do with mental strength or tactics. Jakob just didn't have the legs in the home straight after all the running he's done this week. And what happened to you with your 'don't push the kids too hard' moralizing, and yet now you're having a dig at Jakob for coming 5th and 4th in world finals at the age of 19 and 2 weeks.
jakob is just as doped to the gills as the ethiopians.19 year olds cant run as fast as he does,without a lot of chemical help.
jeff tallon wrote:
jakob is just as doped to the gills as the ethiopians.19 year olds cant run as fast as he does,without a lot of chemical help.
That would imply that Jacob has been doped since he was very young as he has progressed steady since he was 11. Realistic? No way, with his dad as a the coach, his mom as part of the team and all kind of yearly tests from Norwegian scientists with great reputation to back it all up
You dont think a doped runner would have managed better results in a WC? To be a doper and by no means be able to achieve close to his SB when medals lays on the table. Thats ridiculous poor work.
Hilarious that at 19 Steve Cram barely makes his first final and gets last and JI is expected to win.
That's not tragic. What's tragic is that here we have a teenager who is running clean, achieving dazzling times but forced to compete against at least a couple of obvious dopers. When they bust Cheerieyot, hopefully they do it for life.
Only real winners here are the doctors and drug peddlers.
jeff tallon wrote:
jakob is just as doped to the gills as the ethiopians.19 year olds cant run as fast as he does,without a lot of chemical help.
Considering they have been filmed by the Norwegian TV for months over the years in what is a super enterntaining "behind the scenes" series (18 episodes and counting) - the chances that they are doped are close to ZERO.... lookit up on You Tube...
Must be pretty depressing on a daily basis to have such a negative view of things....
The doping excuse is getting old, all of them is under some 'integration' playing with the allowed limits.
The reality is he succumbed to the hype/pressure after a long season and let Makh daddy come out mentally fresh from his retirement and ridiculise him.
Register an account87 wrote:
I am happy he didn't medal. What an arrogant prick:
“This is one of the worst things I’ve been involved in,” continued Jakob in his diatribe on NRK. He claimed he’d lost “against folks I should have beat,” adding that he wished “I could stand here and prove that the others were worse than me.” He concluded by saying he was “just so sad about the result.”
This isn't the first time Jakob or Filip has had this kind of outburst. They can't suppress the unpleasantness when they lose.