Same old same old wrote:
My high school physics teacher used to say, "Pigs is pigs." On this forum, that is debatable, with spite.
You're high school physics teacher was an idiot and learnt you nothing.
"Pigs is pigs." lol, they ain't pigs when they fly or end up as bacon on my plate.
Mr. Reasonable here again wrote:
I did like the men's high jump. Fun to watch.
Well, the stands were really empty.
Someone said that stands were empty in Iowa as well for US Champs. So what? Shame on the IAAF and the USATF both! Put these events in cities where people will come to watch!
Epic performances? There were some super fast times, but seriously, what % of the athletes are doped to the gills?
Please don't say that Hassan is clean! No f&^% way.
The marathon course was *boring* ! ! !
And did 40% of the female field drop out? Yeah, that's fun to watch.
Yes, the indoor stadium was air conditioned; how energy-inefficient was that?
I know there are a ton of climate-change deniers on these boards; that's the level of stupidity that is going to destroy the planet as we know it.
Peace.
If you tweet about climate change and maybe make some snapchats you will save the planet!!!
Oh, and you will be like totally super smart.
DOHA was amazing- best Wold Championships EVER!!!!!!!!! wow
The meet shouldn't have been in Doha. But we all know enough track and field to be able to figure it out with the help of the announcers. And the competition was sensational.
Mr. Reasonable speaks up wrote:
Absolutely no one in the stands; stadium more than half empty; crazy (dangerous) weather conditions for a marathon that was held on the most boring course ever; and some very suspect (PED) performances. Nice job, IAAF!
Oh yeah, the NBC coverage sucked too, but that's old news.
How to ruin the sport of T&F . . . . .
Nobody in the stands. But it was ten straight days of competition. The same thing will be said in two years in Eugene for some of the WC competitions...right? I don't know, please educate me, and I mean that. Do spectators ever come out to fill the stands somewhat during the week at the World Championships? Do spectators come out during the long Olympic Trials, except for the opening and closing days? They sure weren't in Rio for many stadium track & field events. Partly, it's economics -- hefty ticket prices. Partly, it's due to lengthy hours of competition, and long days with only a smattering of finals each day. This isn't going to thrill too many people in this rock-and-roll world.
As for "some very suspect (PED) performances", isn't that always going to be the case given the politics and science of drug testing? I bet that even when / if testing is fair and cutting-edge, if an athlete exceeds, he or she will be suspected of doping. And maybe getting away with a violation is like what is routine in military technology. Something comes along, like stealth aircraft a few years ago, which makes it tougher to catch the opposition.
Allowing marathons to be run in the absurd weather conditions shows stunning disregard for the athletes. But that's what the IAAF and IOC are all about, historically. I can hardly wait for Tokyo! It will make Doha look tame, because more events will be impacted by the weather.
Just a short comment about the NBC announcers. Man, it's tough calling so much fast and furious action, like trying to call a 4x100 once the gun goes off. Yeah, I see failed opportunities to mention key information sometimes, but the typical listener isn't like a knowledgeable track fan, so there has to be a certain amount of "Keeping It Simple, Stupid". I think the announcers did very well. Craig Masback seems the most maligned. The adage I've read on LetsRun, "haters gonna hate", seems to be stuck on him more so than on anyone else. I'm not going to jump on the hate bandwagon. My guess is that no matter who is in the booth, "haters gonna hate".
From the 800 meters up,
2xworld lead marks
17xnational records
2xAmerican records
4xmeet records
59xpersonal bests
40xseason bests
I think it was a great meet and glad they raced instead of being too tactical.
The empty stands were a joke. The venue was amazing. The races were awesome- performances are always going to be suspect. If you can't watch and not let that ruin the races then watch football- they don't use PEDs- oh wait!!!!
At least in track they test and catch people.
The conditions for the marathon are what they are, these are pro's not hobby joggers.
The course was boring? did you have to run it? Again, they're pro's racing not hobby joggers at a destination race.
I have the NBC Gold App- coverage was excellent for every event. No commercials, I saw every minute of every day.
Athletes warming up, in the call rooms, getting off the buses.
It was a great meet. If the stadium was full the whole 10 days like the last 3 days it would have been even better.
Other than no one in the stands how did it suck? Lol.
Amazing performances everywhere. World records. Plus an epic light show entrances that now every major track meet must try and replicate.
The marathon was awesome. You got to see who wanted it the most.
Must be a Jamaican fan cause they suckeddddd lol.
There is always has been a bias against distance races but that has nothing to do with Doha. They gave no preamble to the women's 1500 but talk for 15 or 20 minutes before each sprint final trying to build up excitement and suspense as if that was the only thing that was importaant.
Don't know what you are talking about--the 10000 was an awesome race--very fast time considering position changes and surging. No guarantee that Mo would have been the Ugandan--even with Salazar's potions.
It was a great meet- I normally don’t get into the field events but M PV, M HJ, M SP all were intense competitions. The sprints were exciting, the US men got their act together on the relays ( great to see Coleman and Lyles work together), Good showings by the US in most of the distance races, that 10k was awesome. If Hassan is clean ( and I’m going to assume she is for now)- her performances were extraordinary. Not sure which meet OP watched
The athletics was, for the most part, of a very high standard but then the World Champs prior to an Olympics is usually of a higher standard than the one following. But that would have been the case wherever the champs were held.
It was an error to take it to Doha. Crowds were pathetically small unless either there was a Kenyan v Ethiopian distance duel on the timetable or "crowds" were admitted free and bused to the venue. But money talks (at least to the IAAF) so expect similar venues in future.
BBC coverage was watchable - if you turned down the volume. Cram and Radcliffe should both be sacked by the BBC if it any longer wants to maintain its reputation as an objective broadcaster but this is unlikely to happen - just as UK Athletics won't be ending its association with Nike.
I liked it. It's fun watching better living through chemistry in action!
The NCAA runs their championship meet, which involves the same track events, in four days. And they separate the women and men finals. The World Championships could easily be completed in four or five days. Ten days strings it out way too long in my opinion. Who wants to drive to a meet and buy tickets for an event with only 3 or 4 finals? I won't attend the WC in nearby Eugene in 2021 for this reason.
norwegiannectar wrote:
OP must be a white American male (or Covett).
DING, DING ,DING!!
WE HAVE A WINNER! (and in the OP, we have a WHINER)
This was the best world or OG meet I've seen in a long time. LOTS of great races on both sides. Really enjoyed it more than most big meets I can remember.
I assume you're a distance hobby jogger with SEVERE performance issues so I'll try to talk to you in a way you'd understand.
The men's 10k was fast, men's 5k was fast, men's 3k steeple was exciting, men's 15 was fast, men's 800 was fast. women's 10k was fast, women's 5k was fun to watch, women's steeple was fast, women's 15 was fast, women's 800 was meh.
If you were a true track fan you'd have noticed that the shot was the absolute best performance in ANY championship ever and real track fans know all of the other events.
Just go to your local high school xc meets and tell stories of that one time you broke 17 and stay out of the track world. Doha didn't suck....YOU suck!
The competition was good. Great racing and enthralling field events. It was just soulless because of the location.
w00t wrote:
https://www.iaaf.org/competitions/iaaf-world-championships/news/world-championships-doha-2019-quality-standarThe IAAF loved it.
So, Coe described Worlds in Doha as the best in history in terms of the quality and depth of performances produced by the athletes.
Top women’s performance: 7.30m Malaika Mihambo (GER) long jump – 1288pts on iaaf scoring table
Top men’s performances: 22.91m Joe Kovacs (USA) shot put – 1295pts on iaaf scoring table
Best world championship based on the average scores of all track and field results: Doha
Mr. Reasonable speaks up wrote:
Absolutely no one in the stands; stadium more than half empty; crazy (dangerous) weather conditions for a marathon that was held on the most boring course ever; and some very suspect (PED) performances. Nice job, IAAF!
Oh yeah, the NBC coverage sucked too, but that's old news.
How to ruin the sport of T&F . . . . .
I usually can't stand the coverage but I actually found it pretty good this year. I got to see all the races I wanted and they didn't cut away from distance races at critical moments. The announcing was good except SRR still is pretty painful to listen to.
The marathon course wasn't great but the men's race was exciting.
The stadium being mostly empty a lot of days was a bummer. If every day had been like the men's high jump final it would have been a different story.
Now the doping thing was a pretty awful dark cloud. It seemed like half the winners had some sort of allegation. A couple of the performances by certain individuals were just a joke. The doping issue really makes me sad since you come up in the sport thinking there will be a level playing field and you come learn that most of the world-class athletes are cheating, and most of the rest are in the "grey" area. It's even worse that the leadership of the sport is essentially enabling these problems. I think if the doping cloud were removed this would have been one of my favorite world champs but that really ruined it.