What a race. It's so hard to run away from the field in a middle distance event but that's what he did. Definitely didn't make it look easy. What a stud. The tactical race was pretty interesting too, surprised Lewandowski made the podium. Not surprised by Makh daddy though, you all know this was his plan all year -- do 3 races, podium at the world champs, done.
Too bad doping control (or lack of it) is ruining the competitions. Would east africa have one even one 1 medal if there was actual testing done there?
Makhloufi did quite well despite the layoff.
Lickety Split wrote:
Centro: not bad for like your 5th race of the year. Learn from your mistakes in preparation! This race was perfect for you & you weren't ready.
It's on the coach to get the athlete ready to run. Schumacher didn't do his job. Running a fast 5k is NOT preparation for championship racing.
ohia wrote:
centro = done
craigathor = too much wind resistance
They both have big mouths. Centro is an 8th place racer.
Great Britain is now better than USA in the 1500. Much deeper also and young.
Centro isn't done. He just ran 13 flat and now he ran 3:32.82, a season's best by, I think, four or five seconds (maybe he ran 3:36 in heats?), despite having gotten out with no drafter for a long way with Cheruiyot way out in front.
Centro in a Monaco style race now might have come close to a pr. He's going to be a contender again for a medal next year. He just needs a slower pace to medal.
Eamonn Coghlan won gold in the 5000m in the inaugural 1983 World Champs.
I heard Cheruiot's group improved very much this year. A kenyan physio from USA helps them and also this season they hired a really good asistent coach and strength trainer from France who lives in Kenya called toti. Head coach Ouma is doing an awesome job. Look forward to the future of his club, Rongai Club Athletics.
Les wrote:
Lickety Split wrote:
Centro: not bad for like your 5th race of the year. Learn from your mistakes in preparation! This race was perfect for you & you weren't ready.
It's on the coach to get the athlete ready to run. Schumacher didn't do his job. Running a fast 5k is NOT preparation for championship racing.
- I would have thought a confidence-builder in the 5K would have encouraged both Jakob & Centro to cover Cheryiuyot's move. Then again for Centro, since you haven't raced at those speeds REGULARLY then its tough to be bold. I am very suprised that Jakob did not go w/the Kenyans.
Was that the fastest 1500m ever run by someone leading the whole way?
Love how Tim and Hassan ran their races. They're seconds faster than everyone so go out there and run your fastest and prove it.
No chance of getting stuck behind someone or getting tripped up. Just go out front and dominate.
That's how it's done.
5000mLegends wrote:
Fantastic victory, he blew the field , opened the track like if it was the red sea.
No tactical bullshit, no being afraid, no hesitation, he went for the kill at the start, started under world record pace to create a gap big enough to secure the victory.
That was the race of a true champion. Ingebrigtsen sure seem to like the honour places.
This ^^^^
VroomVroom wrote:
5000mLegends wrote:
Fantastic victory, he blew the field , opened the track like if it was the red sea.
No tactical bullshit, no being afraid, no hesitation, he went for the kill at the start, started under world record pace to create a gap big enough to secure the victory.
That was the race of a true champion. Ingebrigtsen sure seem to like the honour places.
This ^^^^
Agreed. Also happy for Lewandowski
Lickety Split wrote:
Les wrote:
It's on the coach to get the athlete ready to run. Schumacher didn't do his job. Running a fast 5k is NOT preparation for championship racing.
- I would have thought a confidence-builder in the 5K would have encouraged both Jakob & Centro to cover Cheryiuyot's move. Then again for Centro, since you haven't raced at those speeds REGULARLY then its tough to be bold. I am very suprised that Jakob did not go w/the Kenyans.
Hey Lickety, glad to see you posting again. When are you going to post your whites-only world championship results?
I would have much preferred Centro to have run a fast 800 before the World Championship than a distance more than 3 times his race distance. Much higher correlation between 800 time and 1500 fitness. On top of that, Centro appeared underraced and lacking confidence as a result. If you don't test yourself against the toughest competition it's difficult to suddenly be racing them in a championship. Contrast with Cheruiyot who has raced the whole season and has a lot of success and confidence as a result. Schumacher thinks physical training is everything, but it doesn't do much for an athlete's mental preparation.
Not the greatest World Championships for the Bowerman group. Houlihan runs an AR but is "disappointed" by finishing out of the medals. All that strength training and Tsegay runs away from her on the final stretch as Houlihan's kick fails to materialize. Frerichs, World silver medalist and American record holder, gets dropped and finishes 6th, almost 9 seconds behind Coburn. She was only 1 second behind Coburn at nationals. Centro, despite his fast 5k, runs tentatively and sees Cheruiyot turn the final into a Diamond League-type time trial. Centro, who does poorly at those kind of races, holds form and finishes 8th.
Both men’s and women’s races were great. If the leaders doped then at least a number of other athletes finished with NRs / PRs / SBs. Just wish someone could invent a tool to measure blood at all times, then blood doping etc. would be impossible and we could trust the results we see.
Muir yet again fails to win a medal at a major championships. Some of this is simply the competition, but Muir even at this stage of her career, doesn't seem to know what her body is and isn't capable of doing. Again and again she goes faster than her body is capable of going, blows up and finishes out of the medals. Simpson has a medal collection because she knows what she's capable of and what she's not capable of, and races accordingly. When your career is over you want something tangible like a medal, not just say "I tried my best to win and came up short."
Les wrote:
I would have much preferred Centro to have run a fast 800 before the World Championship than a distance more than 3 times his race distance. Much higher correlation between 800 time and 1500 fitness. On top of that, Centro appeared underraced and lacking confidence as a result. If you don't test yourself against the toughest competition it's difficult to suddenly be racing them in a championship. Contrast with Cheruiyot who has raced the whole season and has a lot of success and confidence as a result. Schumacher thinks physical training is everything, but it doesn't do much for an athlete's mental preparation.
Not the greatest World Championships for the Bowerman group. Houlihan runs an AR but is "disappointed" by finishing out of the medals. All that strength training and Tsegay runs away from her on the final stretch as Houlihan's kick fails to materialize. Frerichs, World silver medalist and American record holder, gets dropped and finishes 6th, almost 9 seconds behind Coburn. She was only 1 second behind Coburn at nationals. Centro, despite his fast 5k, runs tentatively and sees Cheruiyot turn the final into a Diamond League-type time trial. Centro, who does poorly at those kind of races, holds form and finishes 8th.
- Bump! Particularly wrt getting after it in the 800m & "mental preparation"!
- You didn't see Yosef or Sifan doing 1/2 Marathons .... they were getting after it in the Mile to prep for the 10K.
Les wrote:
Muir yet again fails to win a medal at a major championships. Some of this is simply the competition, but Muir even at this stage of her career, doesn't seem to know what her body is and isn't capable of doing. Again and again she goes faster than her body is capable of going, blows up and finishes out of the medals. Simpson has a medal collection because she knows what she's capable of and what she's not capable of, and races accordingly. When your career is over you want something tangible like a medal, not just say "I tried my best to win and came up short."
You could see that in the back straight in the final lap Muir was flat to the boards trying to stay with Hassan. At that point she had no chance of winning. I knew she would be running on empty in the home straight. To medal, Muir had to concede the gold when Hassan kicked and held something in reserve for the finish. Gutsy, but doomed trying to go with the NOP prize exhibit. I wouldn't give a bar for anyone in front of her being clean - NOP athlete, followed by a Kenyan, massive prs by 3rd and 4th (as well as others behind her) - but Muir's 3.55 given her record doesn't ring many alarm bells. I doubt the pre-NOP Hassan would have medaled. In a couple of years we will probably find out the race was little different from London '12; runners dropping like nine-pins to the retrospective testers.