If you're Galen, where do you go from here?

mcvred wrote:

I just remembered Galen trained under Alberto another year before officially training with Oregon. Never mind, he knew.

Galen has been suffering from something similar to a case of "Stockholm Syndrome" for around 15 years now. Alberto is almost his dad/life mentor. Whatever gray-area stuff Alberto did as far as testing on Magness or his real son was done to benefit Galen in the future. Galen probably did anything Alberto told him to do and it is doubtful that Galen even thinks any of it is questionable at all. At this point I'd find it hard to believe Galen will be able to just move-on to a new coach in any capacity. I wouldn't be surprised if he still remains coached by Alberto, just on the "down-low".

AP5000 wrote:

You mean into any more obscurity than he already is, internationally? No one cares about a 2:06 guy outside of America.

Yeah, no one cares about a guy who has never run a bad marathon in his life save for one where it was freezing rain and for a guy who has won medals at the last two Olympics.

Horrible take.

rojo wrote:

AP5000 wrote:

You mean into any more obscurity than he already is, internationally? No one cares about a 2:06 guy outside of America.

Yeah, no one cares about a guy who has never run a bad marathon in his life save for one where it was freezing rain and for a guy who has won medals at the last two Olympics.

Horrible take.

People don't care about Rupp, except for those who dislike him extremely. Rupp is a multi-medal olympian (even though his performances have been tainted and fraudulent since he was a child), a non-graduating alumnus of nike's beloved oregon, and yet he is so incredibly bland that even nike won't deign to put him in an ad campaign. Do his parents even like him? He is probably the most internationally obscure olympic medalist imaginable.

He's obviously going to get coached by Pete Julian, everyone calm down.

I'm going to be really interested to see what happens to Rupp the next year. As I've posted elsewhere, I've seen firsthand how close he is to Salzar. Closer even than to his parents. Rupp occupied a position of status higher than every athlete in NOP, even, arguably, Farah. He was Salazar's closest protege, and I cannot think of another coach/athlete relationship that was so integral and vital, akin to the days of Ryun and Timmons, or Snell and Lydiard. Rupp NEEDS Salazar, and if Salazar is indeed a doper as WADA says he is, I cannot see how Rupp can be clean. It explains a great deal about his performance, his behavior off the track, the secrecy.

And assuming he doesn't get dragged down with Salazar in the comings months, without that network, with Salazar there to guide him and provide all the resources he's gotten since a high schooler, it will be very interesting to see how this impacts his performance, or if he'll quickly succumb to injury or fatigue from over training or what have you.

It was just then that rupp dropped the hammer.he was so full of rage after his long time coach was banned that to show the world he runs on guts he passed everyone in the marathon and set the word record. Truly putting the hammer down.

Rita..That wrote:

He'll have an injury soon enough. Will take a long time coming back. Will run a disappointing comeback race somewhere and say his injury is still bothering him. More time off from racing. Come back after long time and run better than expected at a low key race. Get some buzz and sign on to run some big race. Act like training is going better than ever. Eventually DNS from said race. Some other injury this time. Repeat this cycle another time or two. Eventually retire from racing and take some made up job with Nike.

You just described Ryan hall

Then bulk up?? wrote:

Rita..That wrote:

He'll have an injury soon enough. Will take a long time coming back. Will run a disappointing comeback race somewhere and say his injury is still bothering him. More time off from racing. Come back after long time and run better than expected at a low key race. Get some buzz and sign on to run some big race. Act like training is going better than ever. Eventually DNS from said race. Some other injury this time. Repeat this cycle another time or two. Eventually retire from racing and take some made up job with Nike.

You just described Ryan hall

Nope. He just described Salazar spiral down from the top.

Wal-Mart Greeter

It really doesn’t matter who coaches him now. He will likely run a few more 2:09 thons and retire. Doesn’t really need much of a coach to do that.

Too much ill will for Galen on LRC.

Land Armstrong deserves such hostility not Galen.

He should only admit to trying to beat the best with a little too much control by Alberto. Give a honest mea culpa and move on.

He's still our best hope for a 'thon medal. Americans believe in second chances.

T.M.A.D.D.D.H.A.S.F.N.E.

Smiley Sticker wrote:

Wal-Mart Greeter

It really doesn’t matter who coaches him now. He will likely run a few more 2:09 thons and retire. Doesn’t really need much of a coach to do that.

Does he or his bride have a marketable skill?

Elf King is not paying much these days.

No way he goes to Hanson’s! Desi would be upset and abruptly quit.

....oh wait....never mind.

Then use drugs?? wrote:

Then bulk up?? wrote:

You just described Ryan hall

Nope. He just described Salazar spiral down from the top.

it described both

NOP Pansies, all of them wrote:

He could win watered-down marathons against has-beens, but obviously got his butt handed to him when actual competitive marathoners showed up, or when the big, bad non-Ruppified weather made an appearance.

Then of course running THE OLYMPICS is easy when only 3 Kenyans and Ethiopians can run.

All the miniature dude had to do was run Dubai, or London, or Berlin. Then, it might not have taken nearly his entire career to run faster than American guys were running in the 1970s. Of course, without doping, Rupp wouldn't have won a bronze medal in the Olympic marathon. You know, not a gold like Shorter won twice.

Another Frank Shorter cry baby typing from his moms basement. Get it over with you infant. Even Frank is at peace with it, and he was directly affected.

rojo wrote:

AP5000 wrote:

You mean into any more obscurity than he already is, internationally? No one cares about a 2:06 guy outside of America.

Yeah, no one cares about a guy who has never run a bad marathon in his life save for one where it was freezing rain and for a guy who has won medals at the last two Olympics.

Horrible take.

You just cockslapped that poster rojo :D :D :D

I can't stand Salazar, never took him seriously as a coach, always figured he was cheating, and so was never a fan of Rupp.

However, I still can't say anything bad about Rupp. He's a ballsy runner. He's totally reliable. He may not seem tough to look at, but he always delivers the goods. How much of that is due to unscrupulous tricks from Salazar is hard to say. But I think it's kind of low to really criticize Rupp himself. If you buy into the narrative that Salazar dictated everything from the start, then it's actually quite sad from Rupp's perspective. An overbearing dictator took over his life at age 15. He never had a chance. Is that accurate? I don't know, tbh. But I think Rupp should at least be treated decently as a human being.

Ooohhhh Rojo with a hot take and a new definition of relevant. Hey guys, ignore the fact that Rupp can't compete against the very best in the world and no one outside of America even cares about a 2:06 guy, but be sure to know he tries really hard and is consistent in a thon. Consistently well behind the actual world class elites.

How many people are under 2:06 now? 95 individuals (plus all their additional efforts). Rupp is tied for 102nd all time. It's the new land of marathon obscurity.

Great take, Rojo.

Rupp received a hollowed out book in the mail from AlSal with pills inside. And that is something that they actually admitted to so just imagine what else has gone on over the past decade plus.

If Rupp didn't know he was getting doped then he is the stupidest motherfvcker alive.

Most likely he'll retire. Fingers crossed. Galen is definitely guilty of doping.