just my opinion wrote:
The rest of us are fine with ethical grey area coaching.
If Christian Coleman misses two doping tests each year for the next fifteen years and wins everything, you'd have no problem with that?
just my opinion wrote:
The rest of us are fine with ethical grey area coaching.
dfsfdssfdfsd wrote:
This was a terrible article more than 1/3 of the "quotes" were from Oiselle which has a dislike of nike.
just my opinion wrote:
New theory - the anti-NOP anonymous letsrun posters are pro athletes. The rest of us are fine with ethical grey area coaching.
The verdict actually makes me like Salazar better. He was trying to help his athletes in any way he could within the rules. He made mistakes, but his mistakes did not directly affect any athlete and he was only trying to protect them (like trying to make sure Galen couldn't be sabotaged). He was not the intentional, undercover rule-breaker like some letsrun posters insinuate.
washed up athlete wrote:
just my opinion wrote:
New theory - the anti-NOP anonymous letsrun posters are pro athletes. The rest of us are fine with ethical grey area coaching.
The verdict actually makes me like Salazar better. He was trying to help his athletes in any way he could within the rules. He made mistakes, but his mistakes did not directly affect any athlete and he was only trying to protect them (like trying to make sure Galen couldn't be sabotaged). He was not the intentional, undercover rule-breaker like some letsrun posters insinuate.
My take. Posters supporting Al Salazar are Nike corporate employees and/or blood relatives of Phil Kight. My issue with Salazar are his dealings with testosterone.
And when you break anti-doping rules, that means you are doping, not performance enhancing.
I think Alberto deserves the ban he received, but the athlete reactions are self righteous.
For one, many pro runners including Ryan Hall, those running under Wetmore and presumably a whole stable of runners went to Dr. Jeffrey Brown: https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424127887323550604578412913149043072
None of the NOP athletes are accused of any wrongdoing and yet many are putting an * next to their accomplishments. Does Kara Goucher get one too? Maybe we should re-consider their performances, but there's such a comical lack of transparency in track and field relating to supplement use and gray area doping methods. I'm curious as to what is the norm at this level of sport in the U.S. What would turn up in a similar multi-year investigation took place looking at the Bowerman Track Club, for example?
The reactions are negative because many athletes are jealous of NOP success. Add to that fact many distance runners aren't the sharpest spikes in the bag, and you have an un-discerning pack mentality.
Only one 'athlete' was shown to have broken doping rules as per the USADA report. Oh wait, that athlete is the one making many of the accusations. After getting fired from NOP. Huh. No axe to grind there, I'm sure.
^another poster criticizing those condemning a cheating coach instead of the cheating coach himself^
A lot of the posts defending Salazar sound like they are written by the same person under different handles.
just my opinion wrote:
New theory - the anti-NOP anonymous letsrun posters are pro athletes. The rest of us are fine with ethical grey area coaching.
The verdict actually makes me like Salazar better. He was trying to help his athletes in any way he could within the rules. He made mistakes, but his mistakes did not directly affect any athlete and he was only trying to protect them (like trying to make sure Galen couldn't be sabotaged). He was not the intentional, undercover rule-breaker like some letsrun posters insinuate.
A panel found that Salazar unintentionally broke doping rules with no evidence of bad intention.
Uh, sure. Cheated. Salazar is foolishly paranoid and obsessive. Happy? Well, thinking it through, given the massive effort to smear his reputation and accuse him of wrong-doing by this board and disgruntled former associates, I think the paranoia might be warranted. Especially since all that could be turned up in 5-ish years was some extra mL of L-Carnitine and a goofy paranoid testosterone experiment. Uh, yeah. Throw the book at him.
Y'all are funny.
You're missing a variety of vindictive ex-associates and ex-athletes who don't like Salazar.
You don't get a 4 year ban for adhering to the rules. And you are mad at the athletes criticizing his cheating. Unreal.
It's clear the nuances of intelligent appraisal are over your head.
Uh...hmmm. How to reach you...
Al Sal bad cheat! Broke rules!
That should be good. All one sentence words, definite mob mentality. Am I on the side of justice now? Do I get to be part of the unthinking mob now?
wonder how many of them actually read the report and saw that Magness was the only "athlete" doping
L-Carnitine wrote:
It's clear the nuances of intelligent appraisal are over your head.
Uh...hmmm. How to reach you...
Al Sal bad cheat! Broke rules!
That should be good. All one sentence words, definite mob mentality. Am I on the side of justice now? Do I get to be part of the unthinking mob now?
L-Carnitine wrote:
You're missing a variety of vindictive ex-associates and ex-athletes who don't like Salazar.
doodo wrote:
wonder how many of them actually read the report and saw that Magness was the only "athlete" doping
LetsRun.com wrote:
We've got an article up on some of the athlete reaction to Alberto's ban. Nearly all the athletes expressing their sentiment are against Alberto.
Article here.
https://www.letsrun.com/news/2019/10/the-running-world-reacts-to-alberto-salazars-4-year-ban-nick-willis-calls-it-justice/
Feel free to include others we may have missed here in this thread.
Uhh wrote:
L-Carnitine wrote:
You're missing a variety of vindictive ex-associates and ex-athletes who don't like Salazar.
The same tired excuses from supporters of dopers.
Next up ... "everybody else is doing it"
Try and come up with something more original than the Armstrong Defense