ALBERTO SALAZAR BANNED FROM ATHLETICS FOR FOUR YEARS FOR DOPING VIOLATIONS

123rti wrote:

It has been established that Galen was on Testoboost

Oh really?!!!

Exactly! Excuses always seem to win the day with American athletes.

123rti wrote:

Second, I'm no Galen and Alberto fanboy, but aren't Galen's parents both medical professionals? I'm sure they were monitoring all of this and completely aware of what their 15 YEAR OLD son was taking - we'd all be shocked if this wasn't the case.

Not all of us.

123rti wrote:

Second, I'm no Galen and Alberto fanboy, but aren't Galen's parents both medical professionals?

So?, Dr Brown is a medical professional and he's been banned for four years.

And then there are all the other medical professionals who have been facilitating doping cheating.

123rti wrote:

Your ignorance is bliss wrote:

"3) Charts show that Rupp was on testosterone medication from an early age after starting to work with Salazar"

There is nothing presumptuous or false about this statement. Re-read it. Maybe slower this time.

This is why "ahemm" disappeared and why "123rti" disappeared. They know it too.

I have not disappeared, I actually work for a living - as opposed to slandering folks on LRC from my mom's basement. It has been established that Galen was on Testoboost - a LEGAL nutritional supplement - and prednisone. How you folks can get "illegal testosterone" from "testosterone medication" is beyond me?

Second, I'm no Galen and Alberto fanboy, but aren't Galen's parents both medical professionals? I'm sure they were monitoring all of this and completely aware of what their 15 YEAR OLD son was taking - we'd all be shocked if this wasn't the case.

1) It has not “been established” that the chart meant Testoboost. That is Rupp’s testimony - not proven fact.

2) Even it was referring to Testoboost, that doesn’t make any part of my statement “proven false” as you erroneously claimed.

3) You ask how I got “illegal testosterone”, but my statement clearly said “testosterone medication” just as the chart did.

Stop lying.

loomanati wrote:

A panel wouldn't be able to find Genzebe Dibaba or El Guerrouj guilty of doping.

^^^ speculation masquerading as fact.

belial wrote:

loomanati wrote:

A panel wouldn't be able to find Genzebe Dibaba or El Guerrouj guilty of doping.

^^^ speculation masquerading as fact.

Oh? What evidence would they be able to “convict” on?

COSman wrote:

But what, then, would make the panel conclude that Salazar committed such an offense justifying a 4 year ban from the sport?

Rubbing medically prescribed testosterone gel on his two sons has been ruled as an infraction of "selling, giving, transporting, sending, delivering or distributing a Prohibited Substance ... to any third party." The key phrase is "to any third party," i.e., non-athletes included.

If someone is charged with violating this rule, a minimum ban of four years SHALL be prescribed. That's it. You can read more or less into it, but that is their justification for the ban. Their interpretation of the rule will probably be challenged in court, of course, so we'll see if that ruling holds up.

loomanati wrote:

belial wrote:

^^^ speculation masquerading as fact.

Oh? What evidence would they be able to “convict” on?

You claimed, without any justification, "they wouldn't be able to find anything to convict on." You made the claim, its your job to try to defend it.

I'm not saying they wouldn't be able to find anything, but you need to show your homework.

correction: I'm not saying they would be able to find anything (to justify a doping charge on).

You would think doping violations are just that, but it appears there is no end to the number of believers here in the theory of a "partial loss of virginity".

You are without question the dumbest person I have ever interacted with on these boards. The problem I have is not with the quotation you provided, but rather your interpretation of it. You have decided that "orchestrating and facilitating prohibited doping conduct" amounts to "promoting doping" among athletes. Had you been responsible and actually read the AAA's report prior to forming this opinion, you never would have reached such an erroneous conclusion.

Based on the arbitration panel's findings that are delineated in the report you have thus far refused to read, please illustrate how Salazar promoted doping among his athletes. I don't expect a reply beyond the typical cheap insults and "witty" remarks that characterize the majority of your posts here, but maybe you'll surprise me.

Your inability to grasp what it means to "orchestrate and facilitate prohibited doping conduct", the description provided by USADA, shows glaringly that you are trying to depict Salazar's offending as other than what it was; unequivocal doping violations requiring a 4 year ban from the sport. Salazar was implementing a system that sought to apply illegal methods to his athletes (and often without their knowledge, according to Travis Tygart). End of story. Your cavilling at the use of the word "promoting" doping as against "orchestrating and facilitating" it (who was he doing it for if not for his athletes?) and your abuse at the use of the term is the rage of one cornered by an unacceptable fact that cannot be argued away, and above all demonstrates the desire to defend the indefensible. Views like yours perpetuate the cancer of doping in the sport. You are odious.

Lawyer here wrote:

The article asks about the timing of the release of the decision. Usada would not have control over when AAA arbitrators issue their opinion

CAS can't do anything about this.

Are you sure you are a lawyer?

From the USADA website, which I graciously pasted below for you.

"The athlete, USADA, WADA, or the international sport federation (IF) can appeal the decision to the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS). A decision delivered by CAS is final."

Read below...."Mr. lawyer"

I wonder is the Minster of Magic Fudge guilty too. Mo also left him in 2017 https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/other-sports/mo-farah-splits-with-righthand-man-barry-fudge-after-falling-out-a3611341.html

You do realise that Jakob has grown up on Norwegian television and his age is likely accurate? You have heard the reports that at 14 he had a Vo2Max above 70 or something?

El Keniano wrote:

an bn nn wrote:

My questions are...

1. Is Konstanze Klosterhalfen clean?

2. Is Siffan Hassan clean?

3. Is Jordan Hasay clean?

4. Is Jessica Hull clean?

Hasay has been struggling with injuries. and the rest of the listed have had run some huge pbs this year.

This news is making me questioning everyone associated with NOP

This is like asking if Salazar was trafficking in drugs for himself.

I would say 4. Hull yes, the first three, unlikely.

rojo wrote:

Coevett wrote:

Then guys like Wejo, the owner of this site, calls people stupid for doubting the genetic supremacy of East Africans on the basis of the likes of Mo and Hassan.

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I don't tink Wejo does that. That's me.

This is priceless, I'm screen shot'ing it right now.

AreWeTheBaddies? wrote:

I really wonder if those joining the NOP knew that there was this dark cloud hanging around the group. Then I remember that their uniform has skulls on them, it's pretty obvious they aren't the good guys. I don't feel bad for any of his athletes.

Reminds me of this hilarious sketch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn1VxaMEjRU

This was priceless. I never could comprehend why the Nike marketing department allowed NOP to have such an evil logo, especially one based out of Nike HQ.