ALBERTO SALAZAR BANNED FROM ATHLETICS FOR FOUR YEARS FOR DOPING VIOLATIONS

bladerunner wrote:

Hassan was a 3:56 runner before she joined NOP. Now, she's a 3:55 runner. If she's using, it's not helping. Hassan's improved kick might be due to what looks like significant weight loss. But, whatever, posters on this board are just giddy about this news. It 's like the French revolution: guilty or not, everyone in the general vicinity will be decapitated.

Yeah, but she just ran the last 1500 of a 30 minute 10000 in 3:59. And that would have been even faster if not for all the lapped athletes. She broke the mile record and is now running half marathons at the very top level. So yeah, it must not be working. Lastly, let me know of anyone else who can run the 10000 at a honest effort, that is close to their max and finish the last 1500 within 2% of their 1500 PB.

bladerunner wrote:

Hassan was a 3:56 runner before she joined NOP. Now, she's a 3:55 runner. If she's using, it's not helping. Hassan's improved kick might be due to what looks like significant weight loss. But, whatever, posters on this board are just giddy about this news. It 's like the French revolution: guilty or not, everyone in the general vicinity will be decapitated.

Hassan closed the 10000 at Doha with a 3:59 1500. That’s not just an “improved kick”. That’s rocket fuel.

Gramps wrote:

AlSal, will be 65 when he's eligible to coach again, so this is likely a career-ender.

Can he still hang out at Nike or will he be banned from campus and have his name taken off a building?

Well, if we use Lance Armstrong case as reference, NIKE will cut off all ties with him, they don't care, for them what only matters is one thing: NIKE.

Salazar becomes just another goat to sacrifice.

rojo wrote:

I'd be my life certain athletes like Ryan Hall were clean...

Why, because he talked about God a lot??

rojo wrote: Definitely willis clean.

Because he stopped watching porn??

Give me a break.

Any black runners on your list, rojo?

But seriously, if Hall was clean, and the "ALLLL the E. Africans are doping" theory so believed in on here is true, then how in the hell was he beating so many of them? Oh 2:03 (pre cheater shoes) is fantasy, but 2:04/5.....that's totally believable? So silly. One of these is true:

1) Hall was dirty too.....OR......

2) the majority of top E. Africans were NOT actually dirty, OR.....

3) Hall was clean and E. Africans were all dirty, but doping doesn't help that much.....OR....

4) .Ryan Hall is the most gifted runner of all time.

I believe it was #2.

And Willis beat most of the best milers in the world routinely too. He is just the most gifted miler ever?? Doubt it.

If those guys (Hall and Willis) were clean, most (not all) their competitors were also. (or, again, doping doesn't help that much, because they apparently were routinely crushing dopers)

On the plus side all NOP merch will go on sale!

Go whistleblowers wrote:

Ridiculous wrote:

Listening to his pod on marathon talk, my guess is that he did it most out of self preservation instincts. Was tough in the short term but long term was he smart thing for him to do.

Regardless of motivation, everyone who drew attention to this and helped put a stop to it is a hero today in my book! It's a good day for clean sport. Maybe even Salazar will come to see this as a good day if it wakes him up and makes him understand what he did was wrong. Orrrr maybe he just says he would do it all again the exact same way, but one can hope!

He could have realized that when he had a massive heart attack and was dead for 14 minutes. Instead...he became a douche bag. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink it. Salazar is an unrepentant sinner.

neva tested wrote:

Lance the tool wrote:

Actually he did a couple of times but it was covered up. Google is your friend.

Try a real testing positive. Not something made up by your friends trolling on Google.

Try 1999 TDF tested positive for corticosteroids. Fact.

....Lance's doctor then produced a medical prescription, exempting him. The UCI bought it as legitimate. It wasnt until this was uncovered by USADA investigation in 2012 that the prescription was backdated and that the UCI actually knew this but allowed him to continue tour.

Again, 1999 TDF. No EPO test yet in 99.

Frozen B samples, retested in 2005 however revealed that 1999 tdf riders were mostly free of EPO in fear of another 98'. (the year before the "Cofidis affair" where whole teams were booted following massive find behind tour busses. EPO, HGH, cortisone, strroids, actovegin, and even gots blood and heroin were found in a team trainers car)....except 15 out of 205 samples. ....these b samples were not identified by the name of the riders however but coded to protect the integrity of the process. Only the rider could allow the codes to be released. But when a French journalist reviewed the 2005 results he had a "gotcha" plan to trick Lance into alliwinf access to his 99 codes. The journalist bet that LA would be so cocky and confident that he woyld say, "sure, you can have my codes".

Well 9 out of the 15 positives belonged to LA.

This was the initial event that brought scepticism to LA and led Tailwind to bring LA to court to successfully recover their $$$ for bogus performance winnings.

Lance definitely failed drug tests.

They just never came to light until later.

This isnt heresay or WikipediaGoogle BS.

These are facts

Ridiculous wrote:

Maybe this is why he really went for the recordbooks w Kejelcha indoors — he knew this was a possibility. It’s sad to think of him being forced to be away from the sport that is was so much of life for him, and him knowing it was coming.

I’m going to write AlSal a letter of support and admiration when I can find where to contact him. He crossed the line on this but I’m sure it was because he thought the E Africans were doing orders of magnitude worse, particularly before things got tightened up a bit in Kenya a couple years back. I think he got the big things right in life.

Yes, yes, you may as well send a letter of support for each and one of those sitting on death row for mass murder just because they were bullied when they were children. Go ahead...SOCIOPATH.

Can you not hijack a thread and turn everything into a stupid tangential argument, for once?

Raw thing wrote:

So Salazar has been banned by USADA, not WADA. What’s preventing him from continuing to coach KK, Hassan, & Kejelcha?

Salazar was a heroic runner who ran his body into the ground. He is a true American hero. If Tom Brady can get away with deflating footballs, Alberto should be able to to get away with giving out L-carnitine. It’s not like he was handing out EPO like candy. This is a witch hunt by USADA. Free Salazar!!!

Ryan Hall was a patient of dr brown for thyroid issues. Dr brown is now banned for 4 years like Salazar. This is probably why Hallretired. He realized he was actually cheating and felt guilty. Plus he knew he couldn’t train and recover the same way without the thyroid meds.

What about Ricky Simms, the opportunist? Very happy to collect commissions on Rupp, Farah, etc ... He’s a complete hypocrite!

Doctor drown now banned. What about the athletes he “treated?”

Yeah it is wrote:

https://mobile.twitter.com/ryanhall3/status/322041199038980096?lang=en

Sure, Ryan, lol. By that argument,

“Testosterone is not a performance enhancer. It's only useful to get testosterone levels to the state it's suppose to be in.”

“EPO is not a performance enhancer. It's only useful to get Hb levels to the state it's suppose to be in.”

Lol. ?

Why is Hall posting this BS?

Is Sarah and his kids Dr. Brown patients too?

bleu wrote:

Why is Hall posting this BS?

Is Sarah and his kids Dr. Brown patients too?

Family discount? ?