Claudia Lane racing at Dartmouth

Indoor? wrote:

It's nothing to do with form and all to do with trying to win everything in HS. Not a good idea.

Got it. Key to success: don't try to win.

That training video is an eye opener. Neither she or her coach had any idea what they were doing . It makes me wonder if it is a phenomenon that Alex Hutchings writes about in ENDURE and Malcolm Gladwell , in the foreword, says he dealt with . Gladwell ran an amazing time as a novice and train as he might , he couldn’t do it again. Hutchings for 8 years couldn’t improve on his time as a novice . For both it was all mental. Lane and her coach may not have realized how difficult it was to win footlocker . After she came to understand the sport she couldn’t push herself to keep up that level of performance. The weird things she did , like faking tumbles in races , makes me think that might be it .

reer wrote:

Indoor? wrote:

It's nothing to do with form and all to do with trying to win everything in HS. Not a good idea.

Got it. Key to success: don't try to win.

For MS/HS girls pretty much not trying to win would almost be better. But what I really mean is not trying to win EVERYTHING ALL THE TIME. Not trying to train so hard you are attempting to break every single record possible. Name someone that has done this and it has worked well for?

Indoor? wrote:

reer wrote:

Got it. Key to success: don't try to win.

For MS/HS girls pretty much not trying to win would almost be better. But what I really mean is not trying to win EVERYTHING ALL THE TIME. Not trying to train so hard you are attempting to break every single record possible. Name someone that has done this and it has worked well for?

Herb Elliott.

Hounddogharrier wrote:

That training video is an eye opener. Neither she or her coach had any idea what they were doing .

Which means that Mo Farah and Lucas Verzbikas (in high school) had no clue what they were doing either, since they ran the same type of workouts.

The stupidity and misogynistic behavior this web site is obnoxious, in particular toward teenage girls.

Indoor? wrote:

For MS/HS girls pretty much not trying to win would almost be better. But what I really mean is not trying to win EVERYTHING ALL THE TIME. Not trying to train so hard you are attempting to break every single record possible. Name someone that has done this and it has worked well for?

Jordan Hassay

Indoor? wrote:

For MS/HS girls pretty much not trying to win would almost be better. But what I really mean is not trying to win EVERYTHING ALL THE TIME. Not trying to train so hard you are attempting to break every single record possible. Name someone that has done this and it has worked well for?

Zola Budd

Mary Decker

Regina Jacobs

Francie Larrieu

Stop being so infantile wrote:

Hounddogharrier wrote:

That training video is an eye opener. Neither she or her coach had any idea what they were doing .

Which means that Mo Farah and Lucas Verzbikas (in high school) had no clue what they were doing either, since they ran the same type of workouts.

The stupidity and misogynistic behavior this web site is obnoxious, in particular toward teenage girls.

Yeah how did it turn out for Lucas V.?? He didn’t make it a season in college . And Mo needed AlSal to make it . She should have done the same . Salazar would have made her a legend .

Almost every great HS male distance runner that had a good pro career back in the day tried to win everything. Nothing wrong with not being the female Craig Virgin.

Indoor? wrote:

For MS/HS girls pretty much not trying to win would almost be better. But what I really mean is not trying to win EVERYTHING ALL THE TIME. Not trying to train so hard you are attempting to break every single record possible. Name someone that has done this and it has worked well for?

Nothing wrong with trying to break records, win all the time and train hard. The problem for girls is when they show their hand too soon, using the ultimate trump card in high school. The trump card? Being extremely lean. That's all this is really about, not her form or failure to work on mechanics or anything else. She alluded to as much publicly a handful of times, saying she "wasn't working with the same body." It's not complicated considering how often it happens. Will anybody really be surprised to see the phenom of the last few years go through the same thing starting this season?

The life of a professional isn't glamorous either. If Lane can get a degree from Dartmouth out of this she should be extremely happy with the way running helped her.

Hounddogharrier wrote:

Yeah how did it turn out for Lucas V.?? He didn’t make it a season in college .

He was training for triathlon and had a terrible crash on his bike.

Don't be such an inconsiderate imbecile.

Hounddogharrier wrote:

Stop being so infantile wrote:

Which means that Mo Farah and Lucas Verzbikas (in high school) had no clue what they were doing either, since they ran the same type of workouts.

The stupidity and misogynistic behavior this web site is obnoxious, in particular toward teenage girls.

Yeah how did it turn out for Lucas V.?? He didn’t make it a season in college . And Mo needed AlSal to make it . She should have done the same . Salazar would have made her a legend .

NO, he wouldn't have. Dipsh*t!

You are correct. She was doomed from the start just like 90% of the young female phenoms.

Concentric Hero - Eccentric Zero wrote:

...The problem for girls is when they show their hand too soon, using the ultimate trump card in high school. The trump card? Being extremely lean. That's all this is really about, not her form or failure to work on mechanics or anything else. She alluded to as much publicly a handful of times, saying she "wasn't working with the same body."...

This is exactly correct. It's unsustainable and ultimately counter-productive. Problem is that it pays off temporarily, but inevitably the time bomb goes off and there's you get injured, or deal with loss of energy/vitality, or you have to take time off to deal with an eating disorder. It's a sad and all-too-common scenario.

The same as 90 percent of the prepubescent little boys.

The same ones now posting on this thread from their mommy's basements.

90% of the people on this thread are mean spirited bullies. Why such rancor and hostility over an earnest young woman who continues to pursue her dreams? Grow up

She needs to realize that the only way she is going to get back to the top is by having a coach who is an expert in exercise physiology. No doubt the training she is getting now from her low skill college “ coaches” is the modern equivalent of voodoo, witchcraft and folklore.

She should read “Running a Marathon for Dummies “. Kipchoge swears by it. There is some great stuff in it. Then get trained by a scientist who knows running and not sone guy who is the AD’s buddy.

With the right coach Claudia can come back.

RCJason wrote:

She needs to realize that the only way she is going to get back to the top is by having a coach who is an expert in exercise physiology. No doubt the training she is getting now from her low skill college “ coaches” is the modern equivalent of voodoo, witchcraft and folklore.

She should read “Running a Marathon for Dummies “. Kipchoge swears by it. There is some great stuff in it. Then get trained by a scientist who knows running and not sone guy who is the AD’s buddy.

With the right coach Claudia can come back.

That person in the video is not her college coach, FYI.

No. 90% of young male phenoms continue to improve unlike 90% of young female phenoms.