Kate Grace Revenge Tour, Minsk: 1/2 second PB

Jo72 wrote:

As brutal as it sounds, 4:02 is almost worthless internationally and even not competitive with the best in the US. At DL London the first 6 women ran sub 4:01 with a sub 60 last lap and this included relative "no-names" like McDonald and four of the best 1500m runners (Hassan, Dibaba, Kipyegon, Houlihan) weren't even in the race.

1:58 is much closer to an international final or medal than 4:00 nowadays, partly because half a dozen or more of (potential) 1:56-58 runners (Muir, Hassan, Kipyegon, Dibaba, Houlihan, Koko...) run 1500 up instead of 800/1500. The bad luck is of course, that the US does already have 3-4 of the 1:58 or faster runners but Grace might be closer to qualifying over that distance. In any case internationally 1:58 is clearly more valuable than 4:02 or even 4:00.

Sort of depends on who is allowed to run the 800m:) Realistically she is in the same boat in both events. In the US she is one of 3 or 4 people looking for that last olympic spot in the 1500m or one of a half dozen for the last 2 800m spots. The world stage isn't much better and you have to decide if being an 800m gal with endurance is better or worse than a 1500m runner with speed when running rounds. And not to mention that PR is a couple yers old

She is stuck in that group of really, really good runners who are one step down from being a medal threat in global competition.

dadsfadsfdasfdsafdas wrote:

...you have to decide if being an 800m gal with endurance is better or worse than a 1500m runner with speed...

And that pretty much sums it up. Someone has to make a definitive decision either way, she cannot be both. That works for some runners but it won't work for Kate. She is on better footing with the 800 and her tall, somewhat lanky frame will not be as much of a detriment.

There is a reason that there aren't any good 800 runners at BTC.

Love the ad posters: Belarus Tractor Supply

Minsk.

Exactly. Her sweet spot is 1000. The equivalent of an NBA tweener. As for revenge, I am just guessing Nikki Hiltz? Seems like she took the sport Kate Grace thought she had. last, bown away that that is her mom. Who the heck is her dad? Wallace Shawn?????

Move to Philadelphia start training for the 800

Kate Fan wrote:

bling wrote:

Rough when your mom is still better looking than you.

That must have been tough for you to admit, but I admire your candor. Hopefully you have grown to accept your shortcomings and love your mother anyway.

As for Kate, she's absolutely gorgeous!

Bling is a jerk. And you are excessively nice. I'd prefer somewhere in the middle: nothing nice to say, dont say anything at all, including lies.

Hounddog*harrier wrote:

As for revenge, I am just guessing Nikki Hiltz?

I think 92idhdsoah might have gotten it right:

92idhdsoah wrote:

They said it as a joke because she's seeking redemption for struggling at USAs. It's just a positive spin on what could have been viewed as disappointment. She's actually having a solid year of running and she's actually healthy. No reason for people to be negative about this.