Kincaid 12:58, Lomong 13:00, Centro 13:00 at Nike Track in Beaverton!

Trackside testing?

Didn't Ventolin say tracks that small were Micky Mouse?

Least credible fast race ever.

I bet next year about a month out from the Olympics Salazar will do a similar stunt and have Kejelcha break the world record.

I'm saying it now Jakob Ingebrigtsen is about 15sec quicker over 5,000m than these 3.

Subway Surfers wrote:

Didn't Ventolin say tracks that small were Micky Mouse?

Least credible fast race ever.

I bet next year about a month out from the Olympics Salazar will do a similar stunt and have Kejelcha break the world record.

I'm saying it now Jakob Ingebrigtsen is about 15sec quicker over 5,000m than these 3.

I came here to read the carping, whingeing and complaining. I was not disappointed.

That was a cool event, and hot times.!

Duffy Mahoney wrote:

ohia wrote:

honestly that track should be a DQ in and of itself. i imagine if you built a track and put a huge artificial windbreak in the middle, people would call that into question. why is this any different?

Please cite an IAAF rule that references the wind.

That's not the point. Point is they won't be able to replicate the times elsewhere.

Subway Surfers wrote:

Didn't Ventolin say tracks that small were Micky Mouse?

Least credible fast race ever.

I bet next year about a month out from the Olympics Salazar will do a similar stunt and have Kejelcha break the world record.

I'm saying it now Jakob Ingebrigtsen is about 15sec quicker over 5,000m than these 3.

Jakob worth 12:43 now (you said "is")?

lol keep dreaming, fan boy.

Subway Surfers wrote:

Surely the IAAF won't accept this bollocks? Oh wait a second they accepted a pole vault performance by some Kelsie girl, who is Canadian, born in America, lived all her life in America, in an indoor performance a couple of weeks ago, in what was really unsanctioned facilities, a nonstandard equipment, for the OUTDOOR WCs in Doha.

I would love to believe those guys really ran 12:58 -13:00 and 13:00 - but I have my doubts about the validity. Is this not the same track where that blogger ran 30:37 for 10,000, from a previous best of around 31:30 (Zach Levet).

Also, I noticed the guy who placed 4th in this 'race' ran around 14:47 or thereabouts. This means it was basically a three man 'tow show' with Mo Ahmed thrown in, who then dropped out before the conclusion.

Not saying the track is short, but I am not convinced either that it is regulation size. Is there some procedure for confirming the validity of these extraordinary times?

Hopefully my doubts are ill founded and that the three speedsters (Kincaid, Lomong and Centro) will prove their worth in Doha or elsewhere, but until then, some doubts persist.

Thank you.

Ghost in China

I'm sure they wouldn't build a track that wasn't 400m long and had irregular bends compared to straights.

no, it sounds like fake news.

DATY wrote:

Subway Surfers wrote:

Didn't Ventolin say tracks that small were Micky Mouse?

Least credible fast race ever.

I bet next year about a month out from the Olympics Salazar will do a similar stunt and have Kejelcha break the world record.

I'm saying it now Jakob Ingebrigtsen is about 15sec quicker over 5,000m than these 3.

I came here to read the carping, whingeing and complaining. I was not disappointed.

That was a cool event, and hot times.!

I was there as well. Absolutely awesome atmosphere. Track needs MORE events like this.

600mRunner wrote:

Duffy Mahoney wrote:

Please cite an IAAF rule that references the wind.

That's not the point. Point is they won't be able to replicate the times elsewhere.

Eh, that often happens when you run 13:00.

kmaclam wrote:

Oxygenation creation. wrote:

Nothing absurd about it, no other tracks like that, don't forget also the boost in oxygen rich air the vegetation is providing, that track looks like it's in the middle of a friggin' jungle.

Astute point! But everyone knows plants and trees are asleep by 9pm (when this race went off). If they were really trying to take advantage of oxygen rich air, they should have scheduled it for high noon when all vegetation is respirating. Congrats on taking 'absurd' to a whole new level.

Does rain increase air oxygen levels. I think I've read that is the case and it just stopped raining, so maybe that helped a little. They seem to be in great shape.

Can we now finally stop acting like the stupid Tinman team is doing anything remotely impressive?

What did Kincaid run in high school again?

He's now :24 faster over 5K than a guy that went sub-4:00 in high school.

But yeah, CV is some innovative stuff.

Maybe we can get that ultra fanboy to write another novel post about stuff.

LOL

it wasn't the track that was short, it was the timing that was messed up.

if you watch the video, the clock they use is running slow. ;)

Runners are weird wrote:

Can we now finally stop acting like the stupid Tinman team is doing anything remotely impressive?

What did Kincaid run in high school again?

He's now :24 faster over 5K than a guy that went sub-4:00 in high school.

But yeah, CV is some innovative stuff.

Maybe we can get that ultra fanboy to write another novel post about stuff.

LOL

Wait, what? That sub-4 high schooler did so on Tinman training, and at 21 he ran 13:21 the same age Woody was running 13:48.

I get that you don't like the hype around them, but at least pick a reasonable argument.

YouMustBeNew wrote:

WinnytheBish wrote:

People had no issue with the 10k time trial from a few years ago put on for Jordan Hasay by Salazar.

You must be new here, tons of people here had issue with that.

You must be new here, because the love for Jordan Hasay on these boards is obnoxious

Connor winter of Tinman actually beat woody at state in the 1600/3200. Woody developed way better at portland than Winter. Part of that may be because winter thought he was a 1500/steeple guy, when we now know he's clearly a 5k/10k guy.

peculiar paul wrote:

Runners are weird wrote:

Can we now finally stop acting like the stupid Tinman team is doing anything remotely impressive?

What did Kincaid run in high school again?

He's now :24 faster over 5K than a guy that went sub-4:00 in high school.

But yeah, CV is some innovative stuff.

Maybe we can get that ultra fanboy to write another novel post about stuff.

LOL

Wait, what? That sub-4 high schooler did so on Tinman training, and at 21 he ran 13:21 the same age Woody was running 13:48.

I get that you don't like the hype around them, but at least pick a reasonable argument.

Meh, don't waste your time. People like the guy you're responding to have an axe to grind. People with that attitude already have their mind made up, and tend not to think clearly. It's really fairly humorous, as most of the times in cases like this, they've never even met, let alone spent time with the people they're being so critical of.

That track is awesome

Ghost1 wrote:

I would love to believe those guys really ran 12:58 -13:00 and 13:00 - but I have my doubts about the validity. Is this not the same track where that blogger ran 30:37 for 10,000, from a previous best of around 31:30 (Zach Levet).

Not saying the track is short, but I am not convinced either that it is regulation size. Is there some procedure for confirming the validity of these extraordinary times?

First of all, it’s not the same track. There’s more than one track in Portland; Zach ran his race at Lewis and Clark college.

Secondly, the track was re-certified by USATF when they added the rail.

Thirdly, do you really think Nike built a 395 meter track? Why? Just to screw with their athlete’s workouts?

You’re denser than a ball of osmium