COLEMAN WILL COMPETE AT WORLDS (Even though he had 3 whereabout failures in the last year)

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4 years ago 09/04/2019 8:18am EDT

re: missed test != filing failure

missed test != filing failure wrote:
[quote]Coleman’s one-hour window was 7-8 a.m. at his former residence. He also offered up 3-5:30 p.m. at a training facility. The tester showed up at the residence at 7:55 a.m.; started the “collection attempt” at 8:01; and ended it at 9:01. A call to Coleman indicated he had just gotten back into the country and was in Eugene, Oregon, getting therapy for an injury he had suffered at the Diamond League meet in Rome. He was told to update his whereabouts. It was noted he did so “before his school location began.”
On June 12 (2018), Coleman was told he’d missed a test. .

So basically he got off because the "collection attempt" started at 8:01 ?! What happened between 7:55 and 8:01 ? They rang the bell and no one answered ? WADA should appeal this on this very basis !

Also why did the provide TWO 60' time slots (actually 60' and a 90') when he only needs to provide ONE per the rules ?

The "missed test" could only be classified as a "filing test" if his residence was in fact mentioned as his Location for that day and NOT the 60' time slot, maybe it was ? If not I can't see WADA or the IAAF not appealing this ridiculous decision.

And like the Froome "inhaler" fiasco of 2017/2018 we would have NEVER heard about this "backroom deal" if the info hadn't leaked. How many more have there been over the years ?

4 years ago 09/04/2019 9:01am EDT

re: Timing Delay

Timing Delay wrote:
As he resides & trains in Kentucky and Tennessee, I can see him exploiting late-changes to whereabouts vis-a-vis time zone differentials (both States have 2 TZs). Whereabouts initally says he'll be at a Central time zone location from 5pm-6pm, then sometime after midday, he changes it to a locale Eastern time zone from 5pm-6pm, and the DCO loses an hour trying to play catch-up. Or at the very least it's confusing enough (to USADA, or at least LRC) that his lawyer can make an issue of it. Just remember this post, when it happens.

Or he could list his location for the 1 hour window in one place and his general whereabouts for the day in another place. He could also make the 1 hour window really late, so that if they try to find him earlier and he's not in either place, he could update his whereabouts and claim innocence. Using this approach, he might hope it could fool some of the general public, including a prominent track writer.

Oh wait, this is exactly what actually happened.

4 years ago 09/04/2019 9:09am EDT

re: BigTimeRetiredCoach

Does anybody know what constitutes starting the "collection attempt"? What specific event took place at 8:01am that didn't take place when the testers arrived at 7:55am?

4 years ago 09/04/2019 10:19am EDT

re: Milton Friedman

Statutory 5 minutes of bell ringing ?

4 years ago 09/04/2019 3:26pm EDT

re: wejo

guess athlete .

obviously french , have a nice little doping network based on the speed peptide

what is wrong for this progression from age 23 .

This is what this peptide can do if react to it very well .

gains from training and then needing its peak cycle effect on nervous system

to leave those gains on track .

track and ncaa's is so dirty from top to bottom .

from athletes of 15 and up using this to force progression .

this coleman rubbish is all distraction . just the protocal if one of their chosen athletes .

OUTDOOR

60 METRES VIEW GRAPH

PERFORMANCE WIND PLACE DATE

2017 6.73 NWI Tucson, AZ (USA) 09 DEC 2017

OUTDOOR

100 METRES VIEW GRAPH

PERFORMANCE WIND PLACE DATE

2019 10.12 +1.7 St-Etienne (FRA) 26 JUL 2019

2018 10.13 +1.1 Albi (FRA) 06 JUL 2018

2017 10.39 +1.3 Sarcelles (FRA) 27 MAY 2017

2016 10.43 +1.5 Paris (FRA) 29 JUN 2016

2015 10.90 +1.9 Sarcelles (FRA) 06 JUN 2015

OUTDOOR

200 METRES VIEW GRAPH

PERFORMANCE WIND PLACE DATE

2019 20.34 +1.8 St-Etienne (FRA) 28 JUL 2019

2017 21.65 +1.9 Tempe, AZ (USA) 08 APR 2017

2016 21.43 +1.4 Nogent-sur-Marne (FRA) 26 JUN 2016

2015 22.09 +0.6 Sarcelles (FRA) 07 JUN 2015

INDOOR

60 METRES VIEW GRAPH

PERFORMANCE PLACE DATE

2018/19 6.76 Val-de-Reuil (FRA) 01 FEB 2019

2017/18 6.68 Aubiére (FRA) 10 FEB 2018

2016/17 6.76 Eaubonne (FRA) 12 FEB 2017

2015/16 7.04 Eaubonne (FRA) 23 JAN 2016

4 years ago 09/04/2019 3:29pm EDT

re: aduck2022

Did i not mention that coleman / lyles

are 100 per cent certifed dirty as can be .

their dislike for each other is likely fake too .

4 years ago 09/04/2019 3:31pm EDT

re: Barrel of Laughs

Anyone who thinks he should sue for lost income - let’s get real, being a doper has never stopped an athlete from getting a Nike sponsorship.

4 years ago 09/04/2019 4:06pm EDT

re: COOLMAN

He should be pissrd off. They ran his name and rep thru the mud and they didn't even check if it had actually been a full year?!?! What is this? Dog and Pony show they got going on. Smh

4 years ago 09/04/2019 4:21pm EDT

re: Milton Friedman

Milton Friedman wrote:
Does anybody know what constitutes starting the "collection attempt"? What specific event took place at 8:01am that didn't take place when the testers arrived at 7:55am?

An Athlete may only be declared to have committed a Missed Test where the Results Management Authority (RMA) can establish each of the following:

b. that a DCO attempted to test the Athlete on a given day in the quarter, during the 60-minute time slot specified in the Athlete’s Whereabouts Filing for that day, by visiting the location specified for that time slot;

So the question is whether the DCO "attempted to test the Athlete" during the specified 7-8am time solt.

The comment to part (c) notes that "Once the DCO has arrived"..., which would be 7:55am according to the details ("showed up at the residence").

Once the DCO has arrived at the location specified for the 60-minute time slot, if the Athlete cannot be located immediately then the DCO should remain at that location for whatever time is left of the 60-minute time slot and during that remaining time he/she should do what is reasonable in the circumstances to try to locate the Athlete. See WADA’s Guidelines for Implementing an Effective Testing Program for guidance in determining what is reasonable in such circumstances.
Where an Athlete has not been located despite the DCO’s reasonable efforts, and there are only five minutes left within the 60-minute time slot, then as a last resort the DCO may (but does not have to) telephone the Athlete (assuming he/she has provided his/her telephone number in his/her Whereabouts Filing) to see if he/she is at the specified location. If the Athlete answers the DCO’s call and is available at (or in the immediate vicinity of) the location for immediate testing (i.e., within the 60 minute time slot), then the DCO should wait for the Athlete and should collect the Sample from him/her as normal. However, the DCO should also make a careful note of all the circumstances, so that it can be decided if any further investigation should be conducted. In particular, the DCO should make a note of any facts suggesting that there could have been tampering or manipulation of the Athlete’s urine or blood in the time that elapsed between the phone call and the Sample collection. If the Athlete answers the DCO’s call and is not at the specified location or in the immediate vicinity, and so cannot make himself/herself available for testing within the 60-minute time slot, the DCO should file an Unsuccessful Attempt Report.

4 years ago 09/04/2019 11:10pm EDT

re: Kevin Hadsell

Kevin Hadsell wrote:
Bruh. If your plan takes longer to explain than to execute...it’s not a good plan. Kudos to him. “Cleared”. He must be innocent....hey...Remember OJ. He was innocent too. You know...”if it does not fit, you must acquit”.
CC is clean folks!! Woooo hoooo. Go USA!

What kind of adult says "bruh" and what the hell does "bruh" even mean?

4 years ago 09/05/2019 3:46am EDT

re: aduck2022

aduck2022 wrote:
guess athlete .
obviously french , have a nice little doping network based on the speed peptide
what is wrong for this progression from age 23 .
This is what this peptide can do if react to it very well .
gains from training and then needing its peak cycle effect on nervous system
to leave those gains on track .
OUTDOOR
60 METRES VIEW GRAPH
PERFORMANCE WIND PLACE DATE
2017 6.73 NWI Tucson, AZ (USA) 09 DEC 2017
OUTDOOR
100 METRES VIEW GRAPH
PERFORMANCE WIND PLACE DATE
2019 10.12 +1.7 St-Etienne (FRA) 26 JUL 2019
2018 10.13 +1.1 Albi (FRA) 06 JUL 2018
2017 10.39 +1.3 Sarcelles (FRA) 27 MAY 2017
2016 10.43 +1.5 Paris (FRA) 29 JUN 2016
2015 10.90 +1.9 Sarcelles (FRA) 06 JUN 2015

I know the athlete you are talking about (M.F.) , he 's a former failed football (soccer) player (lower french divisions), turned bartender, who took up up track at 22.

4 years ago 09/05/2019 7:09am EDT

re: Fall???

Fall??? wrote:
aduck2022 wrote:
guess athlete .
obviously french , have a nice little doping network based on the speed peptide
what is wrong for this progression from age 23 .
This is what this peptide can do if react to it very well .
gains from training and then needing its peak cycle effect on nervous system
to leave those gains on track .
OUTDOOR
60 METRES VIEW GRAPH
PERFORMANCE WIND PLACE DATE
2017 6.73 NWI Tucson, AZ (USA) 09 DEC 2017
OUTDOOR
100 METRES VIEW GRAPH
PERFORMANCE WIND PLACE DATE
2019 10.12 +1.7 St-Etienne (FRA) 26 JUL 2019
2018 10.13 +1.1 Albi (FRA) 06 JUL 2018
2017 10.39 +1.3 Sarcelles (FRA) 27 MAY 2017
2016 10.43 +1.5 Paris (FRA) 29 JUN 2016
2015 10.90 +1.9 Sarcelles (FRA) 06 JUN 2015
I know the athlete you are talking about (M.F.) , he 's a former failed football (soccer) player (lower french divisions), turned bartender, who took up up track at 22.

Yeah, it’s definitely this guy:

https://www.iaaf.org/athletes/france/mouhamadou-fall-425797

His progression graph looks like falling off a cliff.

4 years ago 09/05/2019 8:07am EDT

re: COOLMAN

I am not sure whether someone has posted this before but I'll do it all the same.

Has the poster Coevett talked about this issue and if so, what has he said.

I am just curious.

I've read a great deal of the responses here but haven't seen any of his posts. I assume that he only posts under his one name COEVETT.

4 years ago 09/05/2019 8:09am EDT

re: NativeSon

For the grammar cops, I forgot to use the question mark.

4 years ago 09/05/2019 5:41pm EDT

re: NativeSon

OUTDOOR

60 METRES VIEW GRAPH

PERFORMANCE WIND PLACE DATE

2017 6.73 NWI Tucson, AZ (USA) 09 DEC 2017

OUTDOOR

100 METRES VIEW GRAPH

PERFORMANCE WIND PLACE DATE

2019 10.12 +1.7 St-Etienne (FRA) 26 JUL 2019

2018 10.13 +1.1 Albi (FRA) 06 JUL 2018

2017 10.39 +1.3 Sarcelles (FRA) 27 MAY 2017

2016 10.43 +1.5 Paris (FRA) 29 JUN 2016

2015 10.90 +1.9 Sarcelles (FRA) 06 JUN 2015

No way can you explain away such a progression from age 23 .,

besides with peds and ,so oh what could it be .

at that age fully developed even if form is crap or what not.

already in an athletic arena , in football so should know how to move fast with some form .

with the speed peptide you are dealing with best ped to ever hit sport , steroids wouldnt even do this

MY god how you have been fooled by wada and iaaf .

4 years ago 09/05/2019 5:51pm EDT

re: aduck2022

guess this is relevant from other thread

https://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=9579202

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