First transgender athlete June Eastwood to compete in women’s DI XC this fall, has pbs of 1:55/3:50/14:38

How many events are you allowed to run in?

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come on already.... wrote:

I wonder how long June has been transitioning and if the reduced testosterone level guidelines have been followed. If I'm remembering correctly the testosterone levels have to be reduced down to the upper normal level for females for at least 12 months? Can someone verify that or correct that?

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doesn't even matter wrote:

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come on already.... wrote:

I wonder how long June has been transitioning and if the reduced testosterone level guidelines have been followed. If I'm remembering correctly the testosterone levels have to be reduced down to the upper normal level for females for at least 12 months? Can someone verify that or correct that?

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Nope. There are no rules for NCAA. You can pretty much compete as is, as Craig Telfer showed

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doesn't even matter wrote:

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come on already.... wrote:

I wonder how long June has been transitioning and if the reduced testosterone level guidelines have been followed. If I'm remembering correctly the testosterone levels have to be reduced down to the upper normal level for females for at least 12 months? Can someone verify that or correct that?

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Nope. There are no rules for NCAA. You can pretty much compete as is, as Craig Telfer showed

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Only Trump can stop this liberal madness.

We need him 4 more years folks. #Trump2020

https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1100384478894149633

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doesn't even matter wrote:

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come on already.... wrote:

I wonder how long June has been transitioning and if the reduced testosterone level guidelines have been followed. If I'm remembering correctly the testosterone levels have to be reduced down to the upper normal level for females for at least 12 months? Can someone verify that or correct that?

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Nope. There are no rules for NCAA. You can pretty much compete as is, as Craig Telfer showed

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Was going to ask as well if the NCAA requires 2 years of hormone therapy.

Personally, I don’t care if trans women or intersex women compete against XX women PROVIDED they’ve done the 2 years required hormone therapy. We’ve yet to see a case where an XY woman under consistent hormone therapy has been dominant.

If anything, we’ve seen that XY women on hormone therapy struggle greatly.

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come on already.... wrote:

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doesn't even matter wrote:

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come on already.... wrote:

I wonder how long June has been transitioning and if the reduced testosterone level guidelines have been followed. If I'm remembering correctly the testosterone levels have to be reduced down to the upper normal level for females for at least 12 months? Can someone verify that or correct that?

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Nope. There are no rules for NCAA. You can pretty much compete as is, as Craig Telfer showed

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The following is what I found online, but am not sure it's current.

"1. A trans male (FTM) student-athlete who has received a medical exception for treatment with testosterone
for diagnosed Gender Identity Disorder or gender dysphoria and/or Transsexualism, for purposes
of NCAA competition may compete on a men’s team, but is no longer eligible to compete on a women’s
team without changing that team status to a mixed team.
2. A trans female (MTF) student-athlete being treated with testosterone suppression medication for
Gender Identity Disorder or gender dysphoria and/or Transsexualism, for the purposes of NCAA competition
may continue to compete on a men’s team but may not compete on a women’s team without
changing it to a mixed team status until completing one calendar year of testosterone suppression
treatment.

Any transgender student-athlete who is not taking hormone treatment related to gender transition may participate
in sex-separated sports activities in accordance with his or her assigned birth gender.

• A trans male (FTM) student-athlete who is not taking testosterone related to gender transition may
participate on a men’s or women’s team.
• A trans female (MTF) transgender student-athlete who is not taking hormone treatments related to
gender transition may not compete on a women’s team."

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SDSU Aztec wrote:

No, there are rules requiring hormone treatment for NCAA transgenders. It's far from a given that she will run the same times after the transition:

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Dwightarm wrote:

Was going to ask as well if the NCAA requires 2 years of hormone therapy.

Personally, I don’t care if trans women or intersex women compete against XX women PROVIDED they’ve done the 2 years required hormone therapy. We’ve yet to see a case where an XY woman under consistent hormone therapy has been dominant.

If anything, we’ve seen that XY women on hormone therapy struggle greatly.

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ojsimpson wrote:

https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1100384478894149633

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ojsimpson wrote:

After 2 years or 20 years... their DNA, bones, muscles, tissues... all stay male.

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Dwightarm wrote:

This trans woman has yet to debut on the track. There’s no way she will run 14:30 or even sub 15. History has shown us that a mid-tier male on hormone therapy will become... a mid-tier female.

At best, I place her 5k times at 15:45.

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A storm is coming wrote:

There is an athlete competing this fall in women’s cross country on a division one team who once was on a male cross country team at the division one level with PB’s of 3:50 in the 1500 and 14:38 in the 5000m.

This is going to shake some things up and force the NCAA to examine how it will handle this new occurrence. I can’t see how this athlete won’t be the favorite at the NCAA championships.

I fear for women’s sports in the NCAA.

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ojsimpson wrote:

Only Trump can stop this liberal madness.

We need him 4 more years folks. #Trump2020

https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1100384478894149633

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rojo wrote:

A technical reading of the rules show that you could take T therapy as a freshman. Then run your sophomore junior and senior years with no therapy whatsoever.

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Please oh please, select Jonathan for Team USA. I really want to see him humiliate the intersex runners and the Kenyan female dopers.

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Dwightarm wrote:

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ojsimpson wrote:

After 2 years or 20 years... their DNA, bones, muscles, tissues... all stay male.

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Absolutely true. Agreed. But they have a huge disadvantage in trying to run in a new, slower, more injury prone and ever changing body.

I’m no scientist but I don’t buy it that a trans woman can just hop up on estrogen hormones and still blast XX women. They have a ton of stuff to deal with in basically running in a new body.

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