In the past 25 years every footlocker winner who later made an olympic team has had the same college coach

does wetmore have any input or coaching responsibilities during the track season?

Interesting. I'm guessing that list is only like 2 people, though.

3 assuming we’re counting the past 25 FL winners

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Hey D3, you can’t spell.

Abdi, pretty sure he never ran under Wetmore.

bigcats wrote:

Abdi, pretty sure he never ran under Wetmore.

Pretty sure he never won footlocker.

bigcats wrote:

Abdi, pretty sure he never ran under Wetmore.

You do realize that Abdirizak Mohamud is not Abdi, right?

You are looking at the names of individuals who made the U.S. Olympic team. You have come to the conclusion that one needs a specific XC coach to make U.S. Olympic team. I look at the same data and conclude: Future Olympians should not race Footlocker XC. The list of U.S. Olympians who did not race Footlocker XC is a long list of men & women.

Plenty of FLN participants have made an Olympic team. I don’t think that not running footlocker helps you make an OT. I do think that kids that win/run FLN and Nike x tend to have the thought that they’ve made it and often live off of that in college. If they didn’t let it get to their head they would usually be fine. Often more talented under trained kids kick their butt in college and they lose motivation and desire.

wrong conclusion wrote:

You are looking at the names of individuals who made the U.S. Olympic team. You have come to the conclusion that one needs a specific XC coach to make U.S. Olympic team. I look at the same data and conclude: Future Olympians should not race Footlocker XC. The list of U.S. Olympians who did not race Footlocker XC is a long list of men & women.

I think you're onto it. Every college coach except Whitmore will screw up a Footlocker champ's chances of making the Olympics.

nailed it wrote:

wrong conclusion wrote:

You are looking at the names of individuals who made the U.S. Olympic team. You have come to the conclusion that one needs a specific XC coach to make U.S. Olympic team. I look at the same data and conclude: Future Olympians should not race Footlocker XC. The list of U.S. Olympians who did not race Footlocker XC is a long list of men & women.

I think you're onto it. Every college coach except Whitmore will screw up a Footlocker champ's chances of making the Olympics.

Alternative conclusion: other coaches are better at turning kids who lost at footlocker into Olympians.

Wrong conc again wrote:

Plenty of FLN participants have made an Olympic team. I don’t think that not running footlocker helps you make an OT. I do think that kids that win/run FLN and Nike x tend to have the thought that they’ve made it and often live off of that in college. If they didn’t let it get to their head they would usually be fine. Often more talented under trained kids kick their butt in college and they lose motivation and desire.

You are disagreeing with my post due to person feelings/emotions. You have not disagreed with facts stated. Footlocker is not necessary for future U.S. Olympians. Think over racing.

wrong conclusion wrote:

You are looking at the names of individuals who made the U.S. Olympic team. You have come to the conclusion that one needs a specific XC coach to make U.S. Olympic team. I look at the same data and conclude: Future Olympians should not race Footlocker XC. The list of U.S. Olympians who did not race Footlocker XC is a long list of men & women.

Point to where in my post I drew a conclusion.

Alternative conclusion: other coaches are better at turning kids who lost at footlocker into Olympians.

It would be interesting to look at how many Olympians each college coach has produced from, say 1500 and up, (this could be US or all countries) and compare it to the footlocker finalists they've gotten. I don't have time to do that much research.

wrong conclusion wrote:

Wrong conc again wrote:

Plenty of FLN participants have made an Olympic team. I don’t think that not running footlocker helps you make an OT. I do think that kids that win/run FLN and Nike x tend to have the thought that they’ve made it and often live off of that in college. If they didn’t let it get to their head they would usually be fine. Often more talented under trained kids kick their butt in college and they lose motivation and desire.

You are disagreeing with my post due to person feelings/emotions. You have not disagreed with facts stated. Footlocker is not necessary for future U.S. Olympians. Think over racing.

This isn’t a fact either, you personally feel as if it’s over racing but for a lot of these kids they won’t start racing hard right away or run duals+invites every week

Drainthefecesswamp wrote:

nailed it wrote:

I think you're onto it. Every college coach except Whitmore will screw up a Footlocker champ's chances of making the Olympics.

Alternative conclusion: other coaches are better at turning kids who lost at footlocker into Olympians.

Are they? He did okay with Footlocker losers Alan Culpepper, Shayne Culpepper, Jenny Simpson, Shalaya Kipp, and Emma Coburn.

I find this claim surprising. NXN hasn't been around long enough to have a significant impact on Olympians. My guess is that you would find the majority of US Olympians from 1984 on (yes, going back more than 25 years) 1500m - marathon ran in Foot Locker, regionals if not nationals.

wrong conclusion wrote:

The list of U.S. Olympians who did not race Footlocker XC is a long list of men & women.

It’s amazing how few footlocker winners have made a US Olympic team.

That could change in 2020, Hasay and Fischer come to mind as potential candidates to make the team.

The question is, did Wetmore just get lucky or is he doing something differently than everyone else?

In Running with the Buffaloes Wetmore says something along the lines of "If you want to be All American in college, don't go to footlocker" I think even he knows that it can be hard for some of those kids to keep it going and some of them view footlocker as the highlight of their career and lose motivation but that's just my conjecture.