Perhaps it would be much more similar if failure results in death.
If he is does not break 2:00, he must be confined to the course and continue running, with no food, water, assistance or way to escape until he perishes...
Perhaps it would be much more similar if failure results in death.
If he is does not break 2:00, he must be confined to the course and continue running, with no food, water, assistance or way to escape until he perishes...
Did Neil Armstrong (USA astronaut) compare stepping on the moon to breaking a 4-minute mile?
Kipchoge is not talking about an exact technical comparison to the Moon landing.
He is talking about the nature of human experience and belief.
When he says man has no limitations, he means it. (And, uh, women too, fer chrissakes.)
He's actually holding out a beacon of hope to humanity. For this, he is a genius, I love him.
Nope. More like Bannister. Still big, but not gigantic. Honnold's free solo of El Cap is closer to moon landing territory.
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This.
The problem is that most people don't recognize the significance of sub-2:00. The 4-minute mile was another matter.
It'll probably come out one day the Eliud is from another galaxy or something like that. The man is just too phenomenal.
gotta love it. now the 2 hr marathon is under serious discussion.
i mean you had old men running 203 and 2 hours is impossible?
in addition, there is only a small fraction of the best talent going into track and the marathon.
i mean you have to be weird to go into track.
but its a good zen thing to do, pure.
anyway, you have to wait for some weird talented guy to do the right training for the 2 hour,
most of the planet is in pathetic shape with a pathetic diet.
with a proper talent pool, all the records go, big time.
we're only scratching the surface. in every sphere.
"One small step for man, a giant leap for mankind." Or - in Kipchoge's case - a sh*tload of strides and no leaping - more a finishing kick.
Bad Wigins wrote:
doctorj wrote:
Back in '69 the ENTIRE world was anxiously waiting...especially the Soviets.
Not likely. They already had the first satellite, the first cosmonaut, the first woman cosmonaut, the first lunar probe, first lunar satellite, first pictures of the far side, and first pics of the lunar surface. They were too busy with a concurrent robotic sample collection mission to be worried about Apollo 11. That mission crashed but the next one succeeded.
All the US achieved that the Soviets didn't was the human part. And national pride in that is pretty ironic when now the US can't even launch a cosmonaut into low Earth orbit, but has to PAY to ride up on a Soyuz. And yes, I said cosmonaut, it's time for the US to quit acting so butthurt about being second that they make up their own word to be the first of.
The US wasted a decade in being the first to the moon. Dumb Kennedy. Dumbwiggg.
All of these efforts and financial resources being poured into tweaking and optimizing performance underscore the difficulties of knocking off an additional 90 seconds to legitimately break two hours. Due to large sums of prize money being poured into marathons, many elite athletes are foregoing having a successful track career before transitioning to the marathon and making the marathon itself the primary goal. As a result , the marathon WR is roughly equivalent to the distance track records on conversion tables. However, distance track records from the mile to the 10,000 m have not budged in recent years. It could well be twenty years before we see a legitimate sub two hour marathon or sub 12:30 or sub 26:00 10,000. The advantage of shoe technology has not been emphasized enough so that a 2:04 marathon from five years ago may not be the same as a 2:04 today. This, as well as optimizing the racing surface seem to detract from the significance of the achievement since most other elite marathoners do not have such luxuries at their disposal.
Nobody should care if Kipchoge breaks 2h in a fake race in artificial conditions.
Someday someone will breal two in a legit race. Kipchoge's media stunts are irrelevant, designed only to satisfy his ego and to help Nike push 250$ shoes.
Kipchoge should stop reading Paulo Coelho, and whomever ghostwrites Kipchoge's 'wisdom' should dial it down a few notches: he sounds half mesianic-cult-leader and half Steve Jobs.
I don't care whether he breaks 2h or not. Go run a real race, no pacers, no everything-taylored-to-your-needs.
BSB wrote:
moon landing more bigly wrote:
The first will always be the first (see Bannister), but the moon landing was a team effort. It's all him out there trying to go under 2:00.
So you think all the about 30 pacers jumping in and out in the 2 hour attempt will not be like a team?
Exactly pure teamwork. Coaching, nutrition, pacers and pacing strategy.
It's like saying formula one is not a team event because the driver is the only one in the car.
ex-runner wrote:
BSB wrote:
So you think all the about 30 pacers jumping in and out in the 2 hour attempt will not be like a team?
Exactly pure teamwork. Coaching, nutrition, pacers and pacing strategy.
It's like saying formula one is not a team event because the driver is the only one in the car.
So running is really just another team sport, like football or the NBA?
Big Red wrote:
Kipchoge is not talking about an exact technical comparison to the Moon landing.
He is talking about the nature of human experience and belief.
When he says man has no limitations, he means it. (And, uh, women too, fer chrissakes.)
He's actually holding out a beacon of hope to humanity. For this, he is a genius, I love him.
No, no, humans have limitations, now even to put togheter the Moon landing with some kind of marketing , pseudo scientific, fueled with peds at their best is very embarassing. 2 hours is just a number it doesnt mean anything.
The Moon is not a number, the Moon is there, the Everest is there , the South and North pole are there.The first humans beings that have been there are absolute heroes for the eternity.
Now run a marathon at 2'50/km or 2'52/km or 2'55"/km is the same thing you are still cover 42'195m. Just a little faster or slower.
Of course Ineos and Nike want blow this 1:59 race to epic proportions good update of Kipchoge training on internet , today profile of the pacemakers on instagram, everything is set up perfect, thats good and is intersesting to follow, but please
dont compare to Moon landing
Banana Bread wrote:
Neil Armstrong is probably literally chuckling in his grave
Probably not
In Recovery wrote:
...like it’ll probably be faked and fraudulent..?!
Ironic because I bet he will be doped to the gills
Umm no. Move on
In Recovery wrote:
...like it’ll probably be faked and fraudulent..?!
You people can't meme or even troll well. You H-House guys feel so bad with the photos from the Indian and Chinese probes showing the landings were real that you simply have to double down. So predictable. So hasbro-rat. lol You still have the movie business for a few years. Stick with that. hah
moon landing more bigly wrote:
The first will always be the first (see Bannister), but the moon landing was a team effort. It's all him out there trying to go under 2:00.
Apart from the pacers, wind breaking car etc
A joke to think it's equal to the moon landing
XK18 wrote:
The only similarity might be the crackly phone.
This is hilarious but probably went over everybody's head.
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