I'm new to the sport and confused about the difference between 5k marathons on road and 5000 meter marathons on the track. Why does each marathon have a different name even though it is the same distance (just a different surface)?
I'm new to the sport and confused about the difference between 5k marathons on road and 5000 meter marathons on the track. Why does each marathon have a different name even though it is the same distance (just a different surface)?
Huh?
new fan wrote:
I'm new to the sport and confused about the difference between 5k marathons on road and 5000 meter marathons on the track. Why does each marathon have a different name even though it is the same distance (just a different surface)?
World records:
Men Track 5000m: 12:37 (Bekele)
Men Road 5k: 13:10 (Wanders)
Women Track 5000m: 14:11 (Dibaba)
Women Road 5k: 14:44 (Hassan)
Notice a difference? This is true for all distances, unless it's a specific record-ineligible downhill course (downhill miles can be crazy fast).
Why is track so much faster? Runners are able to wear spikes, it's 100% flat, better protected from wind usually, no 90/180 degree turns, no issues on the surface like potholes. No one has broken 13:00 or 27:00 on roads yet.
Now in longer races it's different. The marathon road time is much faster than the track time, but it's raced more often (how many elite marathoners run a track marathon?) and wearing spikes for 26 miles is probably not as effective as just wearing the Vaporfly on the roads.
LMAO, please tell me OP is trolling. I don't think he is.
5K and 5,000 meters are the same distance. (roughly 3.1 miles)
The word marathon is a distance that means 26.2 miles.
As for why some races would be called a 5K as opposed to a 5,000 meter, the 5K is usually on a road or a trail and not on an oval.
When referred to a 5,000 meter race, they are referring to an oval (a track).
lets feed the troll
A short course protection factor is included for road races
https://www.iaaf.org/records/all-time-toplists/road-running/10-kilometres/outdoor/men/senior?regionType=world&drop=regular&fiftyPercentRule=regular&page=1&bestResultsOnly=true&firstDay=1899-12-31&lastDay=2019-08-11LateRunnerPhil wrote:
No one has broken 13:00 or 27:00 on roads yet.
Kiplimo’s 26:41 was downhill but AFAIK, Komen and Kipruto’s performances are from legit courses.
The main difference is that in a 5000m they will give you splits every 1000m (as well as every 400m), but in a 5k they will give you splits every mile.
This neatly divides the two into a race for smart people and a race for idiots.
They're the same thing, except typically a race with kilometers is a cross country or road race, saying meters makes you assume track. 5000 meters is track, 5k is road. 10,000 meters is track, 10k is road. This doesn't have to be the case, but seems it's widely accepted and people follow this.
Correct me if I’m wrong wrote:
https://www.iaaf.org/records/all-time-toplists/road-running/10-kilometres/outdoor/men/senior?regionType=world&drop=regular&fiftyPercentRule=regular&page=1&bestResultsOnly=true&firstDay=1899-12-31&lastDay=2019-08-11Kiplimo’s 26:41 was downhill but AFAIK, Komen and Kipruto’s performances are from legit courses.
You are right, I was wrong. Legit performances, and both were faster on 10k road than on the 10,000m track which is surprising. While for distances of 5k and below, track seems to be significantly better it might already be very close in the 10k.
Kipruto got the 26:46 with Adidas trainers. It was also the fastest 10k time since Galen Rupp's track AR 26:44 in 2014.
That said, we always have to be careful with super-human performances and world-records coming from Kenyan runners.
Here's the breakdown....
There are many types of Marathons. Marathons are distances run on roads by large amounts of people.
There's the 5k Marathon, the 10k Marathon, the Half Marathon and then the Full Marathon; some people just call this one the Marathon. You can shorten these descriptions by saying "Thon" or "Mary" It's quite common. So you'll say 5k Mary or 5k Thon. Some like "Thon" but I think "Mary" sounds cooler so that's what I use.
There are also races that people run on track and some of those races are the same distances as the Marys (see what I did there) so even though they are the same distance, because they run them on a track and they don't have lots of people running them, they just go by the distance in the description. So you'll see something like 5000 Meters or 10000 Meters. Whenever you see a race described like that, you'll know it's on the track. Completely different thing than the Marys.
Hope that helps and welcome to the sport. I'm pretty new too, but I've picked it all up pretty fast. This is a great place to learn and everyone is super helpful.
They don't people use the terms interchangeably; I've heard plenty of people talk about 5000m road marathons and vice versa. It's the same for all distances e.g. 10000m road marathons and even 42000m road marathons/ 42k track marathons.
new fan wrote:
I'm new to the sport and confused about the difference between 5k marathons on road and 5000 meter marathons on the track. Why does each marathon have a different name even though it is the same distance (just a different surface)?
A 10k half marathon is also pretty much the same as a 5k marathon. But not to be confused with a 5000 meter marathon on the track.
Stop feeding the trolls with your irrelevant commentary
LateRunnerPhil wrote:
It was also the fastest 10k time since Galen Rupp's track AR 26:44 in 2014.
That said, we always have to be careful with super-human performances and world-records coming from Kenyan runners.
What about super-human performances coming from Galen Rupps?
The 10000 meter and the 10k are different races.
10000 meter is run on a track, completely flat, perfect surface, often rabbited, limited field of runners, splits every 400m, and exactly measured to with a centimeter or so.
10k is run on the roads,
different surfaces sometimes including sand, gravel, grass that can slow you down,
can have over 100 runners,
and has a 1 part per thousand shortness prevention factor add to the distance so that the race is AT LEAST 10,010 meters.
The 10000 meter on the track is about 10 seconds per mile faster than a 10k on the road.
stateroftheoblivious wrote:
The 10000 meter and the 10k are different races.
10000 meter is run on a track, completely flat, perfect surface, often rabbited, limited field of runners, splits every 400m, and exactly measured to with a centimeter or so.
10k is run on the roads,
different surfaces sometimes including sand, gravel, grass that can slow you down,
can have over 100 runners,
and has a 1 part per thousand shortness prevention factor add to the distance so that the race is AT LEAST 10,010 meters.
The 10000 meter on the track is about 10 seconds per mile faster than a 10k on the road.
No way, more like 2s per km.
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Enjoyed this 2 tiered troll very much. Nice angle.
9/10
Enjoyed this 2 tiered troll very much. Nice angle.
new fan wrote:
I'm new to the sport and confused about the difference between 5k marathons on road and 5000 meter marathons on the track. Why does each marathon have a different name even though it is the same distance (just a different surface)?
Nothing triggers me more than people calling everything a marathon lol
if youre paying attention you will notice that it is not calleda 5000m marathon on a track. it is just 5000m. m for meters