Women in America can get a full ride scholarship with a 23min 5k, discuss.

Two choices:

1) You do not know.

2) You do know because you've spent the past 4 plus hours researching IP address of O.P.

Neither #1 or #2 reflect well on you.

Seems like you want to resume debating if a 23:xx 5K high school girl was able to get a full ride.

Unless you can prove different IP addresses, I believe both posts were from O.P.

Either way, it was foolish for three pages of debating if a 23:xx high school 5K runner did or did not receive a full ride without posters asking for all personal bests for said 23:xx high school 5K runner.

RayD

You are a part of this entitled generation! No 23:00 5k girl should get a running scholarship unless she’s in her last semester and there’s money left over for her! As a coach i have slow kids asking me for $$$ all the time! If you give 23:00 girls a scholarship then you’ve set a precedents and your team will never be competitive! You don’t get a scholarship based on your work ethic and how nice you are! It’s based on performance and other factors! Everyone should be treated fair, but not equally! Think Nick Saban said that! Your post is a perfect example of the me generation of entitlement!

LRC = AWFUL DETECTIVES wrote:

Hardloper wrote:

That's not the actual OP you're responding to. Just a (another) troll.

Two choices:

1) You do not know.

2) You do know because you've spent the past 4 plus hours researching IP address of O.P.

Neither #1 or #2 reflect well on you.

Seems like you want to resume debating if a 23:xx 5K high school girl was able to get a full ride.

Unless you can prove different IP addresses, I believe both posts were from O.P.

Either way, it was foolish for three pages of debating if a 23:xx high school 5K runner did or did not receive a full ride without posters asking for all personal bests for said 23:xx high school 5K runner.

You're literally the only one who believed that troll

Full ride scholarship wrote:

I have a friend who consistently runs 23-24 min Cc 5ks and has a full ride scholarship to a smaller school.

Anyone else fee this is extremely unacceptable and is hurting women’s distance running? When we lower our standards to such bad times it surely is hurting the sport m.

Don't blame your friend, blame the system. Thanks to Title IX, women that never even rowed before are approached on landlocked campuses and asked if they would be interested in being on the rowing team with a full scholarship. No lie.

The truth is, most big time college football programs, pay for the womens volleyball, rowing, mens and womens cross country, and many others, like girls basketball

comedyrelief wrote:...I am looking at what is awarded. Men receive 55% of scholarships awarded compared to 45% for women. This in spite of the fact that women comprise 57% of the student population compared to 43% for men.

I'd be interested in where you're getting that from. Source? The source I have, albeit very limited (one D2 conference, but I have multiple years of data between 2005 and 2014), the actual scholarship dollars awarded is about the exact opposite of what you're saying.

Maybe you and I are saying different things? I'm talking about the dollars awarded. When I read back what you originally wrote, you wrote "men overall have more scholarship opportunities". Then in your follow up you wrote " men receive 55% of scholarships awarded..." Are you saying that more men get athletic scholarships? That could be true, perhaps more men get athletic scholarships but they get on average less dollars. Either way, I'd be interested in a source for what you're saying.

Forbes had an article earlier this year that looked at the ratio of high school players in certain sports compared to the athletic scholarship dollars reported. For Soccer, female is 40-1, male is 68-1. For lacrosse, female is 46-1 and male is 85-1. The purpose of that article was to show the effect the Football has in decreasing the number of athletic scholarships available in all other sports.

Scholarship Stats published a chart showing the average amount of an athletic scholarship, by gender, for 2017. For each of NCAA DI, DII, NAIA, and NJCAA the average women's athletic scholarship is greater than the average male athletic scholarship. DI, female is $17654 and male is 16937.

All scholarships should go to the best athletes based on their times. Gender is not really coming in anywhere here.

One girl in my school ran 21:1x something and went DIII, I figure as long as people continue to run and develop we can always end up with talented people

Full ride scholarship wrote:

I have a friend who consistently runs 23-24 min Cc 5ks and has a full ride scholarship to a smaller school.

Anyone else fee this is extremely unacceptable and is hurting women’s distance running? When we lower our standards to such bad times it surely is hurting the sport m.

if the school has a football program, this could be Title IX at its finest.

But it is not true.

Here is the article and the source data from the NCAA.

https://www.womenssportsfoundation.org/research/article-and-report/elite-athletes/pay-inequity/

Here is the source data:

http://www.ncaapublications.com/productdownloads/PR1314.pdf