Do Mormons sneak runs on Sundays?

You don't call Christians, Bibleans or anything like that. They believe in Christ and you call them Christians even though they read the Bible. We read the Bible and the Book of Mormon and consider both the word of God. Calling us Mormon's because we read the Book of Mormon is like calling other Christians Bibleans or something like that. That should be easy to see. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is the official name of the Church. We respect the Bible very much. The Book of Mormon mentions the "Bible" not by that name but by the scriptures that proceeded forth from the Jews and it treats it as true scripture. I consider Elders Nelson, Oaks, and Holland to be very good people.

Listen to a talk or two from them. They call it as they see it. They are supposed to as Apostles. They are not supposed to bend to ever changing societal opinion but are to preach Christ's teachings no matter how unpopular. I have never heard them preach but in a loving manner.

CaliforniaKing wrote:

I coach a team in California with quite a few Latter Day Saints kids. Some run on Sunday, some do not.

I asked one of them if there is an actual dogmatic prohibition on activity on Sunday or if it is left up to them.

He told me that they are taught that Sundays are about honoring God and you're basically allowed to do whatever you want as long as you can rationalize that it is honoring God in some way. For him, running makes him happy, makes his body stronger and allows him more time friends so for him that is a way to honor God.

I'm not sure if that is a personal rule on his part or a churchwide belief

We are not supposed to rationalize so that anything goes although there are not strict "never ever rules". I posted a talk by the current Pres of the Church earlier in this thread on this subject that can be taken as official Church policy. That talk specifically discusses the Churches position on this topic. We are supposed to rest physically on this day. If your job requires it, that may not be possible but that is the goal. The Old Testament was very clear it was to be a day of rest.

CaliforniaKing wrote:

I coach a team in California with quite a few Latter Day Saints kids. Some run on Sunday, some do not.

I asked one of them if there is an actual dogmatic prohibition on activity on Sunday or if it is left up to them.

He told me that they are taught that Sundays are about honoring God and you're basically allowed to do whatever you want as long as you can rationalize that it is honoring God in some way. For him, running makes him happy, makes his body stronger and allows him more time friends so for him that is a way to honor God.

I'm not sure if that is a personal rule on his part or a churchwide belief

After reading through pages of what mormons do/don't believe FINALLY a reasonable response to the OP.

Who cares whether they run on Sunday or not; it is an individual decision, regardless if a person is religious or not.

If a person feels like they are a better runner running 7 days a week, fine.

If a person feels like they are a better person for NOT running 7 days a week, fine.

It is an individual decision.

Can we leave it at that and move on? It seems that most of the time if anything is brought up that includes mormons and running on LR, it turns into a bash and defend exercise. It seems that this group of people are talked about so negatively so consistently on this website. I can't think of another group of people (religious, race, identity) attacked so frequently on this board. Let them do them, we/you do you, and move on.

From a training standpoint for younger runners there is NO evidence suggesting that running only 6 days is better anymore than running 7 days is better. Good coaches know it is about getting a positive response to the training; if that is running 7 days a week, fine; if 6 days, fine; in rarer occasions 4-5 days (or cross training as needed) that is fine too. At the end of the day what matters MOST (in running) is where you are finishing and how fast you ran - NOT whether or not you run 6 or 7 days, or even how many Ks/miles a person runs each week.

Some of those preteen sister wives of 70 year old Mormon elders try to run away on Sundays.

I don't really know how Mormon views differ from traditional christianity, maybe someone can explain.

I've had to travel to Salt Lake City for business multiple times and it's a bit of an odd place. I will say that every Mormon I've met worked with seems to be very happy, they always have beautiful wives and nice families.

Ex-Eagle Scout Mormon accused in online drug empire to stand trial

He ran the drug ring out of his parents' basement

As America's opioid crisis spiraled into a fentanyl epidemic, prosecutors say one young Utah man made himself a drug kingpin by creating counterfeit prescription painkillers laced with the deadly drug and mailing them to homes across the United States.

Former Eagle Scout Aaron Shamo, 29, will stand trial beginning Monday on allegations that he and a small group of fellow millennials ran a multimillion-dollar empire from the basement of his suburban Salt Lake City home by trafficking hundreds of thousands of pills containing fentanyl, the potent synthetic opioid that has exacerbated the country's overdose epidemic in recent years.

brigham likes em young wrote:

Ex-Eagle Scout Mormon accused in online drug empire to stand trial

He ran the drug ring out of his parents' basement

As America's opioid crisis spiraled into a fentanyl epidemic, prosecutors say one young Utah man made himself a drug kingpin by creating counterfeit prescription painkillers laced with the deadly drug and mailing them to homes across the United States.

Former Eagle Scout Aaron Shamo, 29, will stand trial beginning Monday on allegations that he and a small group of fellow millennials ran a multimillion-dollar empire from the basement of his suburban Salt Lake City home by trafficking hundreds of thousands of pills containing fentanyl, the potent synthetic opioid that has exacerbated the country's overdose epidemic in recent years.

Breaking news, Apostle Judas Iscariot denounces Jesus and turns Him into local authorities. Later commits suicide.

An apple that falls from the tree and rots doesn't mean the tree was bad.

Not LDS wrote:

af89( wrote:

Mormonism = Antisemitic.

You don't know Mormons very well do you? The LDS Church is hugely pro-Israel. It is ingrained in their policies and even their doctrine. They have set up education centers and other similar institutions in Israel. Of all the denominations in the USA, the LDS Church is without a doubt the most pro-Israel religious body than any other except maybe Jewish congregations and even then it's a pretty close race.

It's a little more complicated than that. It is true that in their doctrine the LDS claim their doctrine to be from direct descendants of the Jews and themselves as inheritors. However, this is really not all that different from many conservative evangelical Christians who also claim themselves as the inheritors of the promises to Israel.

There have been some complicating frictions, such as the practice of baptizing Jews vicariously, including Holocaust victims. This has not been viewed very favorably by Jewish leaders and the Jewish community at large.

The Mormon community is officially neutral in any sort of stance on Israel-Palestine, although I suspect since Mormonism is aligns so strongly with Republicanism it is more or less strongly pro-Israel, even if unofficially.

Mormons call for conversion of Jews, although they refrain from proselytizing in Israel itself. There are also Mormon writings that view the suffering and death of Jews as necessary for the end times (although Mormon eschatology is a pretty complicated phenomenon).

It is pretty hard to distinguish Mormon relationship with Jews and Israel from most conservative Christians. Different friction points, but generally both groups are pro-Israel, although often from motives and understandings that differ greatly from those of Jews themselves.

Brofest 2.0 wrote:

I don't really know how Mormon views differ from traditional christianity, maybe someone can explain.

I've had to travel to Salt Lake City for business multiple times and it's a bit of an odd place. I will say that every Mormon I've met worked with seems to be very happy, they always have beautiful wives and nice families.

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Brofest 2.0 wrote:

I don't really know how Mormon views differ from traditional christianity, maybe someone can explain.

I've had to travel to Salt Lake City for business multiple times and it's a bit of an odd place. I will say that every Mormon I've met worked with seems to be very happy, they always have beautiful wives and nice families.

It's pretty complicated. Mormon views differ quite extensively from traditional Christianity. Much more than I could possibly write on this forum. I could suggest a couple of books for you. No Man Knows My History by Fawn Brody. Early Mormonism and the Magic World View by D. Micahel Quinn. Mormonism: The Story of a New Religious Tradition. Joseph Smith and the Beginnings of Mormonism by Richard Bushman. Those would be a good start.

It’s odd but true wrote:

I’ll give it a shot: atheism.

The most devout and always proselytizing. Zealous and combative in the defense of the beliefs. Writing books, giving sermons, apologetics, self-identifying, etc.

Atheism is a religion the way not collecting stamps is a hobby.

Brofest 2.0 wrote:

I don't really know how Mormon views differ from traditional christianity, maybe someone can explain.

I've had to travel to Salt Lake City for business multiple times and it's a bit of an odd place. I will say that every Mormon I've met worked with seems to be very happy, they always have beautiful wives and nice families.

Well, first of all, mormons aren't Christians at all.

They believe that the convicted con man Joseph Smith was told by the angel Moron where to dig up golden plates. These alleged plates contained what Smith claims was the Book of Mormon. Only he could translate these plates by using magic rocks named Ummin and Thummin. The plates magically and conveniently disappeared after Smith allegedly translated them.

Smith claimed that he was the prophet of God. God allegedly told Smith that in order for a mormon to become a god on his own little planet, he must have many wives and give 10% of his money to Smith.

God lives on the planet Kolob with his sons Jesus and Satan.

Mormons must wear magic underwear.

God told Smith that negroes are the devil and that negroes can't be Mormon elders.

Mormons must give their kids weird names:

Brynlee

Kyler

Kylar

Cayson

Kynlee

Jaelyn

Zaylee

Kaydri

Brailee

Dallin

Orinn

Kaidence

Cohyn

Dallie-Ann

TyLynn

BrynLee

Elizabeth LuWynn

Briggs LeRoy

Hyrum

Smith alleged that God told him “If ye abide not that covenant of plurality of wives then are ye damned.” That basically means that the pedophile Smith was ordered to have sex with the preteen girls he lusted after.

At least there are ruins that line up with almost every story told in the Bible. The Book of Mormon claims there was a super advanced civilization that rode boats across the Atlantic thousands of years before anyone else and yet there is no evidence that any of these people or their cities ever existed. Some fraudster wrote a fantasy novel and hundreds of thousands of people bought it.

I know Mormons who do and Mormons who don't. It's really up to them. Some may see it in violation of the Sabbath day, not observing the day of rest. Others may view an easy run no worse than taking a walk with their family or dog. Some are so busy with church and family responsibilities that they choose to take that day off. Many runners see a benefit in taking a day off weekly, so it may as well be on Sunday. That's how I feel. But, if I've missed a run or two during the week I may do an easy one on a Sunday and not think twice about it. Others may feel that racing frequently on Sundays is more taboo, being involved in a recreational activities on the sabbath. You'll quickly find out that the vast majority of races in Utah are held on a Saturday, rather than on a Sunday. Race directors try to appeal to the masses. I don't want to speak for them, but my understanding is Sarah Sellers and Jared Ward don't typically train on Sundays, but certainly would, and do, make exceptions for racing major events and it's likely not even be a huge concern to them. This is probably no different than previous elite Mormon runners like Ed Eyestone, Doug Padilla, or Henry Marsh from an earlier generation. Nothing has changed much.

af89( wrote:

Mormonism = Antisemitic.

Congratulations! You win the award for the least educated comment on this thread.

True! A number of LDS athletes have to compete on a Sunday because that is when the race is held. Same thing for NFL, NBA, NHL, MLS, & MLB players. I'm sure a number of policemen, firefighters, corrections officers, doctors and nurses have to work on Sundays also. It's no different. I'm definitely glad that hospitals stay open on Sundays!

Brigham Young went hunting on Sunday: hunting Indians and non-Mormon white folk.

See "Mountain Meadows Massacre"

Hard to know where to start to address this bigotry, miss-characterization, and some outright lies. Criticizing names? I don't think I will bother.

Not true. Use google.