I can run 7:00 pace all day but on nordic skis anything close to 9:00 per mile over the course of an hour is a helluva workout.
I can run 7:00 pace all day but on nordic skis anything close to 9:00 per mile over the course of an hour is a helluva workout.
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she will crush you wrote:
not the world's greatest female xc skier. not even close. go to google images and check out marit bjorgen. she would crush the pencil necks who post here
Bjorgen has retired.
Bjorgen is the greatest of the era.
Charlotte Kalla of Sweden has won 9 Olympic medals to Johaug's 3. Johaug has won more golds at world championships.
Nothing Johaug did is this event was an accident, including going out in :68 and constantly monitoring her heart rate. This is Norwegian XC skiing. Johaug is one of the highest paid, most famous athletes in Norway with unlimited resources behind her. She’s not in this event to run fast. She’s there as a part of a calculated training event. The Norwegian national team coaching and development system for Nordic skiers Is equal to any sport in any country in the world. Nothing is on accident (except for Johaug’s drug bust). The Ingebrigtsens are JV athletes in Norway compared to the fame and fortune of top tier Nordic skiers.
Love the aid stations! I’ve never seen water every 400 meters, plus sponges.
boxer on a track wrote:
Also from her Wikipedia:
"In October 2016 Johaug was suspended for a period of 18 months due to a positive drug test....The ointment she claims to have used is called Trofodermin. It contains Clostebol. A big red warning label with the word “Doping” is normally printed on its packaging."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Therese_Johaug
Norwegian's don't dope.
The continuous video all the way around the track for the entire distance was awesome.
Goucher Needles wrote:
Nothing Johaug did is this event was an accident, including going out in :68 and constantly monitoring her heart rate. This is Norwegian XC skiing. Johaug is one of the highest paid, most famous athletes in Norway with unlimited resources behind her. She’s not in this event to run fast. She’s there as a part of a calculated training event. The Norwegian national team coaching and development system for Nordic skiers Is equal to any sport in any country in the world. Nothing is on accident (except for Johaug’s drug bust). The Ingebrigtsens are JV athletes in Norway compared to the fame and fortune of top tier Nordic skiers.
Does she have a Mercedes, like them Ingebrigstens kids?
+1! Distance running on TV isn't boring if the viewer gets a sense of how fast and strong these skinny people are. I saw the leaders running down the road onto Commonwealth (just after the bridge near Fenway) and they were flying, feet hardly touching the ground - nothing at all like the slow leg turnover on TV that looks like jogging. Running isn't football that's so fast and chaotic that the action has to be slowed down for TV, by skipping and holding frames or however they make it appear slower than it actually is.
Incredibly impressive run. With some work on her form , modified body composition and some dedicated run training she could beat lot of Olympians. What an athlete.
Didn't say couldn't just not highly likely. Either way it's a speculative discussion. Of those at or near the top of US now, most were not NCAA skiers. Scott Patterson might be closest to True. He had a couple of 10 finishes at NCAAs, 2nd team all American. Norris was a podium finisher at US senior nationals as a 19 year old, and also was 2nd and 7th one year at NCAAs, and was 12th or so his freshman year. He's had ups and downs and gotten sick at the wrong time and has only made one World Championship so far and not the Olympics yet. Kyle Bratrud is about the same level and he Won a USA championship as an undergrad and had several top 5s at NCAAs. So what I'm saying here is that it's really hard to get onto the USST as an outsider (NCAA skier), especially now that they count World Cup points over championships and podiums at home. True's teammate Glenn Randall (infamous for his rash Boston Marathon start on the hot day some years back) was a several time NCAA all American I believe, and was a podium finisher at US Nationals 50K one year. He never made a team.
I'm not a long-time coach like you but have participated in and followed the sport going back to the mid-80s, and it seems that a top 10 at NCAAs is about equal to a top 10 at US Nationals in a year when all the players are there. And probably not to many former NCAA skiers who never cracked top 10 in 3 or 4 years (e.g., the Bjornsens jumped early) have made an Olympic or World Championship. Might be a coupe here or there. Either they work their way through a club like Stratton, APU, or are fast tracked into the USST like Hoffman was at 18 or 19, or they are a very good NCAA skier going head to head with the 2nd tier Norgies and Germans or occasional Eastern European.
As for Johaug's running form. My wife used to make fun of me every spring for he first month or two of running because she said I looked like a duck, or like I was trying to skate. Now I run year-round and just hobby ski once or twice a week in the winter.
Following up to answer my own question, Tyler Kornfield and Logan Hanneman made the last Olympic team and had not placed top 10 at NCAAs, but they are primarily sprinters who have had podium finishes at US Nationals going back to their teens and early 20s. Kornfield made the Olympic team by winning the 30K at nationals a couple years ago, but the course was modified due to poor snow cover. So that was was like an 800 specialist winning XC on a flat course where everyone runs 5:00 miles until the last part or the 10K in a tactical race.
Johaug has potential to break 31 minutes quite soon.
Does anyone know if she's planning to run in the Doha World Champs?
Johaug isn’t driving a Mercedes. She’s got Bentley money.
The discussion about her improving her running so she can be a professional runner show the lack of understanding of the status of Nordic skiers in Norway. The number one reason they’re the best skiers in the world is because the best athletes in Norway aspire to be skiers. Becoming a distance runner would mean a huge decrease in pay and status for Johaug.
Armstronglivs wrote:
Not very bright wrote:
And you don't know much about trolling or LRC, do you? PNU was making fun of a well known poster here who claims PEDs don't work in Kenya.
You must be loads of fun at parties.
A party for LR trolls. Can't say I'm sorry I missed it.
You were one of the first invited.
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Armstronglivs wrote:
A party for LR trolls. Can't say I'm sorry I missed it.
You were one of the first invited.
Side splitting. You're a regular Seinfeld.
Goucher Needles wrote:
Johaug isn’t driving a Mercedes. She’s got Bentley money.
The discussion about her improving her running so she can be a professional runner show the lack of understanding of the status of Nordic skiers in Norway. The number one reason they’re the best skiers in the world is because the best athletes in Norway aspire to be skiers. Becoming a distance runner would mean a huge decrease in pay and status for Johaug.
Your post misunderstood my post. I never said she SHOULD. I said she COULD. She’s a wonderful runner already. She could be spectacular. She has no NEED to be. But if she wanted to...
Stranger than fiction wrote:
pdoms;mcas;odl wrote:
I haven't laughed this hard in a long time. Thank you for posting.
The story behind the video is unbelievable:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-venezuela-skier-idUSKBN1650X2
Are you sure that's not a young Obama showing a Venezuelan flag?
A lot of Norwegians ski. Ingrid K. did it, too, among others.
No she won't. She first needs to qualify according to international standards.
Running imposes great risk of injury and she isn't willing to take that risk for peanut money.
She did it again today, she ran alone 10 000m on track in 31:40. Amazing.