this still stands wrote:
Sounds like you're a fool wrote:
Oh, ok. Lets think about moral, amoral, and immoral... a party that screws its own candidate for another (Hillary over Bernie), and therefore screws its voters, but claims to be 'for the people' is totally moral... am I right?
A party that conspires with the media to create what is possibly the biggest hoax in American history, is moral... am I right?
I can go on and on, but this is suffice for the point.
I rest my case.
Armstronglivs wrote:
this still stands wrote:
I rest my case.
You have no case, other than a mental one.
I can't help it... wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
I rest my case.
You have no case, other than a mental one.
You sound like a liberal. I bet you are.
Nobody gets triggered more than conservatives nowadays. Criticize their head of state and they fall over themselves to deflect, defend, and whatabout...
Always makes for a few good pages of entertaining trolling, but it's almost too easy.
Harambe wrote:
Nobody gets triggered more than conservatives nowadays.
Quite the astute observation, especially in light that the three mass-shooters of the last couple of weeks were ideologically left.
Sounds like you're a fool wrote:
blort wrote:
I was a registered republican for 25+ years - until just year. I just could not take Trump any longer. The serial lying, the narcissism, the pure stupidity, the utter lack of a moral core. I am not a registered independent.
He is possible the worst human being to ever be a President of our country. The fact that he conned so many people to believe in him astound me.
Look, I get not liking many ideas coming from the left wing. I am a capitalist. I'm a believer in personal liberty. But the republican party has lost their mind over the past decade (or more), and Trump has taken it up to the point I just can not consider myself a republican any more.
Of course, the democrats are not any better. All they need to do to defeat Trump is be reasonable. Instead they are pandering to the worst traits of their party. The nanny state taken to the nth degree. The moral superiority gone berserk.
It 's not all that complicated. We've become too ideological. We don't talk to each other any more. We talk at each other. We don't listen. We don't even think about things any more or consider that our long held beliefs might be wrong.
While I'm a capitalist, I'm not blind to it's faults. We need regulation, and not every industry should be in private industry. We need to protect our borders, but we don't need to demonize people just trying to find a better life. I'm for lower taxes, but lets not fool ourselves that taxing Jamie Dimon, or Warren Buffett (both of whom I admire a lot) less is creating jobs. Lower taxes for business creates jobs. Lower taxes for the up and coming businessman creates jobs. Lower taxes on the uber wealthy does not. I have no problem with a 50% tax rate with incomes over 1 millions dollars. Maybe be 70% on something like 20-30 million.
Both sides have a point on issues, but instead of listen to ideas we don't agree with, we just head back into the echo chamber. That is the single worst thing I think Trump has done. He's made the division into our tribes a point of pride.
If you can't see that Donald J Trump is a liar, who is amoral, and completely corrupt, then you are lost in your own echo chamber. If you can take a step back and see Trump for what he is, then I fear for the future of our country.
Oh, ok. Lets think about moral, amoral, and immoral... a party that screws its own candidate for another (Hillary over Bernie), and therefore screws its voters, but claims to be 'for the people' is totally moral... am I right?
A party that conspires with the media to create what is possibly the biggest hoax in American history, is moral... am I right?
I can go on and on, but this is suffice for the point.
What the democrats did or did not do has nothing to do with whether Donald Trump is amoral or not.
BTW: large groups of people are rarely moral, amoral, or immoral. Individuals are. I don't think either party has a lock on morality, but there are very few amoral people. Donald Trump is one.
Harambe wrote:
Nobody gets triggered more than conservatives nowadays. Criticize their head of state and they fall over themselves to deflect, defend, and whatabout...
Always makes for a few good pages of entertaining trolling, but it's almost too easy.
Right. The track guy suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome is not the triggered person. Keep telling yourself that.
nice try . wrote:
blort wrote:
I was a registered republican for 25+ years - until just year.
Yeah right.
This scam is often used by libs. My nutter lift winger relative likes to play this little game of self-delusion. Reality check: nobody is buying it.
^This. Is what I'm talking about.
I was a democrat from age 18-30. I registered republican at at 30. I voted form GH Bush twice. I voted for Bob Dole. I voted for GW Bush. Twice. The second time with reluctance. A lot of reluctance. In 2008 I voted for Obama with reluctance. I thought McCain was alright, but Palin was (and turned out is) a disaster. I voted for Obama again in 2012. I thought it was a toss up with Roomey and I almost voted for Mitt. I choose to go with the known vs the unknown.
2016 was the worse election of my life. Two horrible choices. HRC is, I think, immoral. She knows wrong vs right, but she chooses power over principle. She's not a person I would want to know or have run our country. Then there was Trump. The walking case of classic narcissistic personality disorder. A person who lies about everything. A terrible businessman, and terrible person. I voted for HRC, but I really was not looking forward to 4 years of her and was hoping some Republican would come around who was sane.
Trump has turned out far worse than I ever thought possible. I've agreed with a few things - a lower corporate tax rate for one has been very good. But the change he has created in our society - the tone he has set, the utter disregard for facts. the lack of decency is devastating..
We are a worse country than before Trump. Our reputation has been damaged. And it will take a lot to repair.
I've never voted for party. I always vote for the person. I've rarely been happy with the choices presented, but I've never been so utterly dejected than to have Donald J Trump as our president. I could no longer associate myself with him. Thus I'm an independent. I'm not a liberal, or a conservative. I've an open mind. I can even change it when I realize I'm wrong.
real life exercise wrote:
LRC says otherwise wrote:
Go take a stroll over to the Official Donald Trump thread and look at which side of posters more commonly uses facts and reason vs. which use emotion.
Go take a stroll into life and talk to a lib. That should answer your question. It's a disturbing exercise, but sometimes you have to open your eyes to the ugly side of life.
Sure, the Trump thread with 6 liberals and many different handles posting fake link after fake link and calling them factual. The right posts a link, they look the other way. I bet Flagpole is your hero, eh? Wow, ever learn to think for yourself "LRC says otherwise"? A bunch of crybabies who defend every negative link about Obama and rip every decent one about Trump. You call that fair? Yep, you're a libby alright. Glad Hillary lost her butt not even 3 years ago.
blort wrote:
nice try . wrote:
Yeah right.
This scam is often used by libs. My nutter lift winger relative likes to play this little game of self-delusion. Reality check: nobody is buying it.
^This. Is what I'm talking about.
I was a democrat from age 18-30. I registered republican at at 30. I voted form GH Bush twice. I voted for Bob Dole. I voted for GW Bush. Twice. The second time with reluctance. A lot of reluctance. In 2008 I voted for Obama with reluctance. I thought McCain was alright, but Palin was (and turned out is) a disaster. I voted for Obama again in 2012. I thought it was a toss up with Roomey and I almost voted for Mitt. I choose to go with the known vs the unknown.
2016 was the worse election of my life. Two horrible choices. HRC is, I think, immoral. She knows wrong vs right, but she chooses power over principle. She's not a person I would want to know or have run our country. Then there was Trump. The walking case of classic narcissistic personality disorder. A person who lies about everything. A terrible businessman, and terrible person. I voted for HRC, but I really was not looking forward to 4 years of her and was hoping some Republican would come around who was sane.
Trump has turned out far worse than I ever thought possible. I've agreed with a few things - a lower corporate tax rate for one has been very good. But the change he has created in our society - the tone he has set, the utter disregard for facts. the lack of decency is devastating..
We are a worse country than before Trump. Our reputation has been damaged. And it will take a lot to repair.
I've never voted for party. I always vote for the person. I've rarely been happy with the choices presented, but I've never been so utterly dejected than to have Donald J Trump as our president. I could no longer associate myself with him. Thus I'm an independent. I'm not a liberal, or a conservative. I've an open mind. I can even change it when I realize I'm wrong.
Sure, and Hillary Clinton would have done what so far? See what I mean? A known lying thief and her husband in the White House, wow!!!!, so much better a choice you'd have made. Feel better now?
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2007/02/the-obama-clinton-brawl-over-david-geffen.htmlreal life exercise wrote:
LRC says otherwise wrote:
Go take a stroll over to the Official Donald Trump thread and look at which side of posters more commonly uses facts and reason vs. which use emotion.
Go take a stroll into life and talk to a lib. That should answer your question. It's a disturbing exercise, but sometimes you have to open your eyes to the ugly side of life.
You just made my point and you don’t even seem to realize it.
LRC says otherwise wrote:
real life exercise wrote:
Go take a stroll into life and talk to a lib. That should answer your question. It's a disturbing exercise, but sometimes you have to open your eyes to the ugly side of life.
You just made my point and you don’t even seem to realize it.
But I guess my post for you to go take a stroll over to the Official Donald Trump thread proves my bias and lack of critical thinking. I was never that smart in school or life, so I guess you just proved me wrong. Sorry brother, I just like calling people racist even though I don't want "them" living near me. So I guess I'm hypocritical too. Sorry
Is handle stealing making a point with facts and reason or an emotional response?
Please, keep proving me right.
Ironic verbiage wrote:
Harambe wrote:
Nobody gets triggered more than conservatives nowadays.
Quite the astute observation, especially in light that the three mass-shooters of the last couple of weeks were ideologically left.
They always come out and prove my point for me. I love it. Cheers mate
The El Paso shooter was a regular guy. He simply acted on the prejudices that are spewed everyday in places like this. His buddies are everywhere - and especially here.
Black girlfriends, black female celebrity friends wrote:
https://pics.onsizzle.com/this-is-donald-trump-with-his-african-american-girlfriend-kara-25425952.png
That is a hot chick. I wonder where she is now?
Bumpin' wrote:
Black girlfriends, black female celebrity friends wrote:
https://pics.onsizzle.com/this-is-donald-trump-with-his-african-american-girlfriend-kara-25425952.pnghttps://s.abcnews.com/images/US/GTY_Donald_Trump_Whitney_Houston_ER_160307_19x13_1600.jpgBut according to some here, his racism was common knowledge. Well, if it was so common knowledge, why is there a long history of blacks being friends with him?
The Russia hoax fell apart, so now it's all in on 'mysogynist and racist!', despite the contrary evidence.
Oh my, he said something! Nevermind Barack flaunting his erection, which is far worse.
But, remember this, my friends... liberals are as intellectually dishonest, as any come. See the Russia hoax for a strong example. This thread, along with many others, is a further compounding point.
The fact that you want to bang a hot black, or mixed race women does not prove you are a racist or not. Slave owners banged their slaves.
I have no idea if Trump is a racist or not, but his rhetoric as president certainly makes him appear to be one. He may just be pandered to what he thinks his base wants to hear. Either way, it's wrong IMO.
It really is hilarious that they think having a picture with a black person absolves one from any possibility of being a racist.
I'm safe from being called racist because I'm a Bekele addict and he is literally African black(although not the same texture as Kenyan black). Ethiopians are kind of like Indians.
Banana Bread wrote:
I'm safe from being called racist because I'm a Bekele addict and he is literally African black(although not the same texture as Kenyan black). Ethiopians are kind of like Indians.
But if there was no Bekele you would take a different view of Africans, in their apparently varying hues.
RIP: D3 All-American Frank Csorba - who ran 13:56 in March - dead
RENATO can you talk about the preparation of Emile Cairess 2:06
Running for Bowerman Track Club used to be cool now its embarrassing
Rest in Peace Adrian Lehmann - 2:11 Swiss marathoner. Dies of heart attack.
Hats off to my dad. He just ran a 1:42 Half Marathon and turns 75 in 2 months!
Great interview with Steve Cram - says Jakob has no chance of WRs this year
