This kid may be good, but is he as good at basketball as Nick Symmonds is at running? Probably not.
This kid may be good, but is he as good at basketball as Nick Symmonds is at running? Probably not.
I hope he doesn't feel compelled to make basketball his life. Even if it works out, he'll forever live in his father's shadow.
Better to become his own person, find his own interests.
datxrunner wrote:
Bronny looks great and is definitely league-bound. Even if his game wasn't up to NBA level (which it looks like it will be in a few years) he will be signed just because of his name. Lebron has also made it clear that he will play for whichever team signs Bronny; his biggest goal is to share the court with his son. The only question is when.. directly out of HS, or one and done?
Also, Lamelo ball will go top 3 in next years draft, barring injury. His game has taken off; 6'7 point guard who can do it all.
Lamelo Ball is for sure a top prospect. I will not say top 3 until we see whoevers riding the NCAA hype train but I have not seen this kid pushed to the max in a while. Hes got all of the tools offensively and hes starting to play defense on top of that.
Little Bron is being set up to live uncomfortably in Daddy's shadow for his entire life. Lucky for him Daddy may wind up a billionaire. I would guess that he lives in a twisted world in which he receives the same boot-licking and yes-man treatment that his Dad has received since he was a kid himself. Very unhealthy.
How can he possibly live up to the trajectory he's on? The answer is that he cannot but since he's being groomed in the same ugly AAU world as his father, he will know nothing else. His parents are also making the cataclysmic mistake of raising him in LaLaLand, at a BB factory powerhouse to boot. Anyone who has lived anywhere near the Hollywood Hills knows that it's best place in the world for screwing up people's lives.
Maybe he'll wind up a squared away human being, but I wouldn't bet money that he doesn't shrivel in Dad's shadow. At least he'll have Dad's money to keep him afloat.
Bball fan wrote:
Having watched a fair amount of Bronny's games on Ballislife he is a definite mid to high level D1 player, but doesn't have the transcendent talent that indicates an NBA lock. Lamelo was a better prospect at the age, but Lamelo was also a 14 year old starter on the best high school team of all-time, which is a high standard to hold anyone to.
Most accurate post I've read on this thread.
don't see it wrote:
honestly, I just don't see it.
weird to say for LeBron's son, but he just doesn't have the athleticism. He's not super quick, unimpressive hops, not a great shooter.......he's basically the super version of the coaches son. He's average size, decent athleticism, average shooter, smart, pretty good court vision, good feel for the game, always makes the right pass and is fundamentally sound. that sounds like a solid D1 starter at best.
when your mixtape has missed dunks and mostly lay-ups.......it's a bit early to talk about NBA.
If he grows a couple inches and becomes a knockdown shooter, then we can talk. He doesn't look anywhere quick enough to get by NBA wings, so how is he going to score?
I agree with this for the most part, and it's a shame he'll be under this much scrutiny with some much of his fate being left up to how tall he grows.
With that said, it looks like Bronny could end up being a late bloomer and at about 6'1" or so without shoes, this could be his version of being underdeveloped, and that could be something to look out for. If you look at DWade's son as a Freshman, he was only good enough to play on the freshman team—not even JV. He was about 5'11, 6'0" and he was very slow and didn't look even close to dunking. Two years later, he's grown 2-3 inches, is very quick with the first step and his speed and probably has a 38 inch max vertical and can do all sorts of dunks. He always had moves, a decent jumper and good court vision, but now he's got the physical tools to be a very good player. He averaged like 18/5/4 and made all-conference in all-state and scouts seem him as a 3-star or so mid-major prospect. He's not a top 200 player in his class, but he's for sure a D-1 level guy. Thats coming all the way from someone who didn't even play JV as a freshman.
Based on what I see, Bronny is actually about as a good a *player* as Zaire Wade is now, but he's guaranteed to be a better prospect. Just compare him to Zaire as a freshman. He's much more athletic than Zaire was at the same age (Easily windmilling, tomahawking and doing the reverse cradle dunk, elite balance and body control) even more skilled (his left hand is as good as his right, can make crosscourt passes with his left hand) and he's basically the same height as Zaire now.
So if Bronny physically develops like Zaire did and has even a moderate three-inch growth spurt, he's a 6'5" point guard with great athleticism and virtually every skill you could want. That's a definite high major prospect and possibly an NBA player, especially if he can shoot and defend. His strength, bounce and body control are all already very good, but I think his ceiling comes down to whether his first step becomes explosive enough and if he grows to be 6'4" without shoes. I'm certain he's got 3 inches or so to grow as he looks scrawny despite a muscular frame, so now its just a matter of that frame expanding and filling out.
People obsess over bounce, but so much of being a great player comes down to being able to get by people and get wherever you want. If he gets that I could see him being like a Jrue Holiday or a taller Mike Conley with a notch below in quickness.
Another thing to consider is Bronny is clearly the best player on his 14u team and merely a solid role player on his 15u team. But his AAU team has at least two top 30 players (dior and Skyy Clark) and several other D-1 prospects. Playing up a year and being able to play off ball and defend, shoot and hold his own is a great sign. We're likely not seeing the best of what he can do. Hes a knockdown shooter with range, too. He plays 3&D for SFG
How can a kid whose father just tried to trademark the phrase "Taco Tuesday" fail?
How tall is Bronny?
Hounddogharrier wrote:
What is his mom’s athletic background ? If none he won’t make it .
BS
You think every player in the NBA had a mom with an athletic background?
Nothing in that video would make one conclude that he is an nba level talent. That is not to say that he won't be. Of course it is possible. But there is nothing amazing there yet.
WhyRegisterHere? wrote: would guess that he lives in a twisted world in which he receives the same boot-licking and yes-man treatment that his Dad has received since he was a kid himself.
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Maybe he'll wind up a squared away human being, but I wouldn't bet money that he doesn't shrivel in Dad's shadow. At least he'll have Dad's money to keep him afloat.
Nobody else had LeBron's level of money, fame, and expectations, but there are a bunch of sons of NBA players in the league right now who grew up in wealth and privilege and their fathers' shadows and are doing just fine.
That being said, Bronny doesn't jump out at you as an NBA prospect. All the "if he grows" stuff can be said about any other 6'1" 14 year old. But it's way too early to say whether he is or is not an NBA prospect. Lew Alcindor and LeBron you knew at 14, most kids you don't.
How about Mikey Williams?
WhyRegisterHere? wrote:
I would guess that he lives in a twisted world in which he receives the same boot-licking and yes-man treatment that his Dad has received since he was a kid himself. Very unhealthy.
t.
You might want to read this before you post any more ignorance about Lebron when he was a kid.
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/9825052/how-lebron-james-life-changed-fourth-grade-espn-magazineYeah, no, I know the whole story better than you ever will. From the time it became apparent the kid had BB talent, numerous coaches and community members/mentors were in that kid's life, big time. He was less raised by single mom than he was raised by AAU, JH and HS coaches and supporters.
the stupidity here is unbelievable........ wrote:
WhyRegisterHere? wrote:
I would guess that he lives in a twisted world in which he receives the same boot-licking and yes-man treatment that his Dad has received since he was a kid himself. Very unhealthy.
t.
You might want to read this before you post any more ignorance about Lebron when he was a kid.
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/9825052/how-lebron-james-life-changed-fourth-grade-espn-magazine
lol, a notch below?? more like 12 notches below
great athleticism? if he had great NBA athleticism it would be popping off the screen at the HS level. It's not. He would be below average as an NBA athlete so his other skills need to be off the chart.
That's really not true at all, a lot of people develop later, hence the Zaire Wade example I left. (freshman year:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5jtK-Sm6yQvs: Junior year at age 17:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAjmqbbN33Y).
^^^ huge difference in suddenness, speed, coordination and strength and size here. It's literally night and day, and he's improved athletically even since then, filling out a lot more. Now, I'm not saying Zaire is an elite athlete or that he became an NBA-athlete per se, but the point is he is physically nothing like he was when he was 14. He's a far above average high school athlete with his bounce and quickness. He's a legit low/mid-major player—and Bronny is roughly as good as he is now.
Contrasting Zaire and Bronny at 14-15, LeBron Jr. is doing windmills and cradle dunks easily at a young age, and he's basically the same size as Zaire now. His speed/quickness isn't there yet, but he doesn't look too physically mature for a freshman, so it's clear he's not topped out. Even if he doesn't have some 5 inch growth spurt, most freshman get a lot stronger/more athletic between freshman and junior year, especially if they're training and playing sports year-round.
It's hard to make guarantees with any thing, but suggesting a 14-15-year-old is the same physically as they will be at age 17-18 is wild.
If David Stockton can make it to the NBA, then Bronny is a shoe in.
I love this idea of familial dynasty that some NBA players and their fluffers hold on to. Just what the NBA and its fans need; not just players who were asss-kissed and pampered from the time they were young teenagers, but kids who were treated like .01%ers from birth. Isn't one Stephanie Curry enough?
be your own man wrote:
I hope he doesn't feel compelled to make basketball his life. Even if it works out, he'll forever live in his father's shadow.
Better to become his own person, find his own interests.
Or maybe he could profit by making millions playing basketball? Nah, better take up a career in poetry or gender studies..
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