I am truly crushed for the boys and their families. :)
I am truly crushed for the boys and their families. :)
04, 05, 06 Champs wrote:
Happens at all levels. Even community colleges. Greg and Doug must be sweating....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Bd5GLQeTQM
RBL Posse San Francisco classic! Reminds me of my time at city college. We had a fast team back in the day. Wonder what bianchi and owyang have been up to all these years?
Chemical Castration for all Child molesters and Rapists.
R Kelly and Jeffery Epstein need the Lorena Bobbitt technique.
Sicko Epstein wants his little peewee frozen when he dies. Cut it off now, and put in garbage disposal!!!!!!!!!!
Confuzzled wrote:
CousinPookie wrote:
How did he get away with it for so long? This guy was in a protected class of people. Question their behavior and then they counter with the R-word (racist)and you become the villain.
You are a piece of sh!t. Not too mention a friggin idiot, thinking that being a black male makes is easier for him to get away with this. Go back to your trash Fox News and pretend that you as a white male are somehow a victim because others want rights that you feel you should only have, you piece of sh!t!
Hey, watch the micro-aggressions, bro!
Primo Numero Uno wrote:
I was thinking the same thing when I saw the article this morning. how is this not on the homepage. the guy coached Felix Sanchez and other Olympians and was coaching athletes at UCLA'S track. I can't believe someone can get away with this for so long.
Please. In today's PC climate it's easy to understand how this particular individual got away with this for so long. And you know it.
CousinPookie wrote:
Confuzzled wrote:
You are a piece of sh!t. Not too mention a friggin idiot, thinking that being a black male makes is easier for him to get away with this. Go back to your trash Fox News and pretend that you as a white male are somehow a victim because others want rights that you feel you should only have, you piece of sh!t!
Hey, watch the micro-aggressions, bro!
To add to your furor I would suggest reading about the William Cosby case. His rapist behavior was an "open secret" for decades but it wasn't until Hannibal Buress, a black comedian, made a joke about it that got posted on the internet and went viral that his castle crumbled.
IDontWantToLiveOnThisPlanetAnymore wrote:
This stuff keeps making the news and it’s making me want to vomit. Why are there so many perverts out there?
It is pretty astonishing when you consider the length of time, the number of victims and age of the victims. Btw, track & field mirrors life to an extent, all of the things that go on in life, take place in t&f. Albeit, I would suspect there are fewer perverts in t&f than regular life because everyone tends to be narrowly focused. I actually read the whole article (long), my heart goes out to the victims and I'm particularly bothered that this guy makes the 99% of coaches who would never do this sort of thing.
Confuzzled wrote:
CousinPookie wrote:
How did he get away with it for so long? This guy was in a protected class of people. Question their behavior and then they counter with the R-word (racist)and you become the villain.
You are a piece of sh!t. Not too mention a friggin idiot, thinking that being a black male makes is easier for him to get away with this. Go back to your trash Fox News and pretend that you as a white male are somehow a victim because others want rights that you feel you should only have, you piece of sh!t!
Virtue signaled much?
polevaultpower wrote:
PWay Runner wrote:
If you are a member of USATF you get email notifications of this behavior almost monthly although not to this level. This guy is truly sick.
In 2018 SafeSport sanctioned or have pending stations on 55 - 60 individuals for criminal disposition or criminal disposition with a minor. Meaning some sort of sexual contact or behavior. I think they are going back and sanctioning those on Megan’s List but not 100% sure. This is the type of topic we need to discuss here. Coaches are entrusted with young athletes bodies, minds and dreams we can’t sweep stuff like this under the rug
They can only sanction coaches who are USATF members. The real numbers are more than 10x that amount.
SafeSport knew about Mainwaring before the criminal charges came out. They couldn't do anything.
Our sport has normalized these private coaches who exist under no one's umbrella. We have coaches banned by SafeSport still coaching privately. The ban keeps them away from USATF sanctioned events, and prevents them from getting insurance through USATF, but they can't really stop someone from coaching on their own.
Mainwaring is the perfect example of why we need SafeSport. As of the report, they only have one incident that was chargeable, and since it involved an adult, the sentence will be light relative to the gravity of his decades of abuse. The judge can consider the other allegations in sentencing, but they generally have to stay within the sentencing range for the crime they are actually convicted of.
They were within a few months of the statute of limitations ending on the one case that was charged. This easily could have been a story about a man who molested dozens of men and never had criminal charges.
Mainwaring is also the perfect example of how little we can do to stop predators in our sport. Most of our sport exists outside of USATF's umbrella. NFHS has their head in the sand. NCAA turns a blind eye. AAU has a handbook similar to our SafeSport handbook, but any enforcement is secret, rendering it fairly worthless.
There is no simple solution, but a good first step is that facilities need to start requiring any private coaches to be SafeSport compliant USATF members so that there is some accountability if they abuse an athlete but fall short of the high standards for criminal charges.
There is a free training for parents at Safesport.org, I really recommend any parents reading this take it.
I believe the problem is bigger than the number of cases reported to SafeSport. Curious where you came up with the 10x number.
Don’t know where the 10x number came from but here is the link to the most recent sanction list from SafeSport.
http://www.usatf.org/About/SafeSport/Disciplinary-Records.aspx
Let's not forget that SafeSport was created to protect NGO's, not athletes.
Confuzzled wrote:
CousinPookie wrote:
How did he get away with it for so long? This guy was in a protected class of people. Question their behavior and then they counter with the R-word (racist)and you become the villain.
You are a piece of sh!t. Not too mention a friggin idiot, thinking that being a black male makes is easier for him to get away with this. Go back to your trash Fox News and pretend that you as a white male are somehow a victim because others want rights that you feel you should only have, you piece of sh!t!
AKA: I don’t have a counter argument to what you said so I’ll just call you names. Get outta here confuzzled.
Luv2Run wrote:
I believe the problem is bigger than the number of cases reported to SafeSport. Curious where you came up with the 10x number.
My own research. Email me or message me on Facebook if you want more info.
I’ve heard rumors about a couple active coaches. I wonder if they’ve heard.
I agree that this should have been a big story on LetsRun
(Not that they should have broken the story, just that they should have shared it on their front page for sure)
Would love to get some input from some of the people that know Manwaring. What say you, Nick??
Supertramp wrote:
I agree that this should have been a big story on LetsRun
(Not that they should have broken the story, just that they should have shared it on their front page for sure)
I agree too. Maybe the Brojos didn't see this? But it was the front page of ESPN, so it's big news and I think they should have done their due diligence to post it on the front for a while. At the very least to inform young people that sickos exist in Track & Field, and to keep a watchful eye out for predators.
I did a few workouts with his crew, including Felix Sanchez in January and February of 2004, during various phases of his Olympic Training cycle. Mainwaring came after me, and I am one of the anons in the article. He came after me once. I split. He gave me TONS of adidas merch, that I later sold or gave away. He did get 3 friends, including 1 who is quoted in the article.
If you saw the list of people who were attacked by him, you'd be shocked. You'll ask yourself, "how can they allow this to happen?" It's simple really: you're lured in by a friend you trust. He tells you, "I know this coach, and he's really good. look at the guys who train with him." so you go and workout. then the coach begins to brainwash you--no different than any good coach who has to convince you that their method will make you a champion. If your college coach told you to do barefoot running backwards at the end of every workout, you'd do it, even if it seemed strange. It's the same concept here. Next thing you know, you're getting "treatment" as he called it. (Ever hear of the NXIVM cult? They also used the same process. R. Kelly did the same thing too.) Thankfully, I was able to get out without any damage. I tried to tell a few people who are big names in the so-cal Track & Field world and nobody believed me.
I had 3 coaches, 1 in HS, 2 in college... 2/3 had rumors about them being inappropriate with female runners.
I figure if that's just my little experiment of 1, imagine how bad it is across the country?
For anyone who wants a shorter version, Only A Game did a segment on it.
update today: Podcast series on ESPN/ apple/ spotify, etc.
@Wejo @rojo Make this story front page news. A 2x gold medalist's coach is a massive child molester!
To young high school and college athletes learning this story:
1. Keep a watchful eye on these coaches. If you experience ANYTHING that is questionable, get out as fast as you can!
2. Tell someone trustworthy--go to the cops if you have to!
To parents/ Coaches:
Please keep a look out for sickos like this! protect your children!
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