Williamson was a shocker. Powerful with great lines. However, reparations are a stupid idea, and not an idea poor whites will like.
Warren- great
Sanders- par for the course
Butigieg - rock solid, but did not stand out
Beto- improved his cred, still slightly light weight.
Delaney- great showing, but whacked out facial expressions
Ryan- great job, made a dent in front runners.
Knoblochar- good political mom skills. I like her
been around wrote:
the free stuff show wrote:
It's been the free stuff show tonight. They all have been trying to outdo each other on giveaways. Everybody likes free stuff but please give a little detail on how you plan to pay for it all. No details at all from most of them.
Have not you heard? Mexico is going to pay for it.
The mythical 1%. Aka the working middle class
XY wrote:
Williamson was a shocker. Powerful with great lines. However, reparations are a stupid idea, and not an idea poor whites will like.
Warren- great
Sanders- par for the course
Butigieg - rock solid, but did not stand out
Beto- improved his cred, still slightly light weight.
Delaney- great showing, but whacked out facial expressions
Ryan- great job, made a dent in front runners.
Knoblochar- good political mom skills. I like her
Reparations would have been a GREAT IDEA in 1863 (1865 For Texas) As people who had suffered the Inhumane Atrocity were still around, It should have been addressed THEN, NOT 154 years after it ended, and everyone who suffered through it are gone, And so is everyone who was involved in it.
Wow. This thread actually made it to three pages
The Democrat moderates finally asserted themselves. Warren and Bernie seemed to move the very progressive crowd. But they are poison to the party. Decriminalization of illegal entry, free insurance for illegal entrants, reparations to blacks, free college and all loser ideas that risk another 4 years of trump.
The moderates did well, but it's hard for them to stand out. Warren tried her best to shame them, but she failed.
The democrats have their own tea party like crazies. The tea party ruined the Republican party, and now we have the Warren /bernie/ squad wing.
They need to stop calling these shows "debates." In a debate, you make points and your opponents try to counter them. These are talking-point contests.
Whether you like Trump or not, the Democratic party is too corrupt to continue to exist; ignore it and let it fade away.
Official Democratic Debate Thread:
A joke!
This thread only has posts from: Trumpites, Bush loving never Trump Republicans and Libertarians. I can tell not one of you are Democrats. Democrats and those further left are ignoring all propaganda stated by right winger on this thread.
I agree that most posts are not by Democrats.
But I will be voting in the Dem primary.
There won’t be 20 people on the ballot.
They all did OK. I don’t think any lower tiered are getting a big bump from this.
I'm a Democrat. Check my name.
I missed the debate because my wife watched the Bachelorette finale.
Currently, I support Mayor Pete. Biden's time has passed, Bernie/Warren are too far to the left, Harris can't beat Trump.
It seems to me like the media and Washington pollsters are too caught up in Twitter and refuse to see what the ordinary Americans want in a candidate: an adult who can beat Trump.
I am an Independent and I am praying that one of these Dem candidates will come to their senses and leave the Twitter BS behind. No one over the age of 16 that isn't mentally deranged or totally gaslit cares about these hyper-progressive issues.
I think Mayor Pete was fantastic last night. Bernie is unhinged and while it might excite far-left crazies, he doesn't play well with anyone sane. Calling for a revolution? People just want safe neighborhoods, health care, kindness, and less corruption.
I am somewhat impressed with Warren after last night, but I worry about her past. She gets very caught up in the moment - like Trump - and can say some pretty unsavory things. Maybe she can eliminate that and be a leader.
I think tonight will be about eliminating Joe, and with that will come all kinds of racial accusations. If Harris pulls that again, I think it will be the end of her as well. No one wants a race baiter in the White House. We have dealt with that since 2016 and it's been a disaster.
What I found odd is that the CNN talking heads were praising Bernie and Warren last night, totally ignoring Pete. I get that Pete didn't yell and scream and stomp his feet, but I think most Americans noticed that and mentally acknowledged it as a good thing. He is my top pick at this time: definitely green but very smart, articulate, fair, and lucid.
A lot of folks like me out here who are really hoping the Democrats can put up a decent candidate. I am not voting for someone who is calling for a revolution. That is crazy talk.
algorenew wrote:
For the record, I turned it off during the opening statements when Pete Buttigieg said something about the climate crisis. 2031 is the point of no return, apparently. For some reason that nonsense put me over the edge. Before that, though, I was amazed how bad some of their deliveries were. Hickenlooper stood out to me as a terrible speaker.
You heard it here first folks. Consensus science is "That Nonsense," that put this one over the edge.
The CNN talking heads were praising Warren and Sanders for laying out a vision, for being bold. You may not agree with that vision but you know where they stand. "I wrote the damn bill" was just one example. I have no idea what some of the other candidates believe other than their dislike of Trump and their belief they can do well in a few red states. I won't vote for Bernie but I like and respect how he has brought up these progressive ideas. He has a spine. Many Americans love and respect Trump because he has a spine and cajones. Hopefully the Democrats won't nominate a flip flopper.
AN MODERATE wrote:
It seems to me like the media and Washington pollsters are too caught up in Twitter and refuse to see what the ordinary Americans want in a candidate: an adult who can beat Trump.
I am an Independent and I am praying that one of these Dem candidates will come to their senses and leave the Twitter BS behind. No one over the age of 16 that isn't mentally deranged or totally gaslit cares about these hyper-progressive issues.
I think Mayor Pete was fantastic last night. Bernie is unhinged and while it might excite far-left crazies, he doesn't play well with anyone sane. Calling for a revolution? People just want safe neighborhoods, health care, kindness, and less corruption.
I am somewhat impressed with Warren after last night, but I worry about her past. She gets very caught up in the moment - like Trump - and can say some pretty unsavory things. Maybe she can eliminate that and be a leader.
I think tonight will be about eliminating Joe, and with that will come all kinds of racial accusations. If Harris pulls that again, I think it will be the end of her as well. No one wants a race baiter in the White House. We have dealt with that since 2016 and it's been a disaster.
What I found odd is that the CNN talking heads were praising Bernie and Warren last night, totally ignoring Pete. I get that Pete didn't yell and scream and stomp his feet, but I think most Americans noticed that and mentally acknowledged it as a good thing. He is my top pick at this time: definitely green but very smart, articulate, fair, and lucid.
A lot of folks like me out here who are really hoping the Democrats can put up a decent candidate. I am not voting for someone who is calling for a revolution. That is crazy talk.
You are in the minority of the LR libs. They embrace socialism, free college, free healthcare for illegal aliens, open borders, higher taxes on the middle class, and allowing China to screw us over on trade again. Revolution is what the libs here demand. The Dems will nominate a leftist candidate and ensure a Trump victory in 2020.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EAr5mHYUwAETxLg.jpgRigged for Hillary wrote:
You are in the minority of the LR libs. They embrace socialism, free college, free healthcare for illegal aliens, open borders, higher taxes on the middle class, and allowing China to screw us over on trade again. Revolution is what the libs here demand.
You live in a fantasy land.
Interesting to see the far left wing of the party on display last night. Sanders and Warren got props from the media, but they still haven’t shown the math on how they are going to pay for all that free stuff. Warren seems to be confusing taxing billionaire wealth vs income, and accusing the moderators of parroting Republican talking points when she couldn’t answer the question was a joke. They should have hammered her on that. She and Bernie are unelectable as president, I just don’t see either appealing to enough of the independents and soft Republicans to win.
Buttigieg was the most presidential and seems to be playing the long game, not saying things which could come back to haunt him in the general election. Williamson made some good points but seems to be more provocative than anything else, like that kid in 6th grade who intentionally uses big words to show everyone how smart she is. Plus she has kind of a weird marble mouth thing going on with her voice when she gets going which is distracting. Amy makes some good points and would make a great VP. Beto looked like a lightweight again, Delaney made some tremendous points, but then failed to go in for the kill when Warren and Bernie responded with sound bites instead of facts. Hickenlooper was incoherent, and the guy from Ohio sounded like a shop steward for the UAW.
If you are talking about reparations, and are not starting with Native Americans, then you are simply pandering.
Boring wrote:
Wow. This thread actually made it to three pages
The majority of posts are by Trumpers.
Danny Democrat wrote:
I'm a Democrat. Check my name.
I missed the debate because my wife watched the Bachelorette finale.
Currently, I support Mayor Pete. Biden's time has passed, Bernie/Warren are too far to the left, Harris can't beat Trump.
I'm a Republican. Check my name.
I missed the debate because I was reading Trump tweets and watching Fox News.
Currently, I support the most obscure democratic candidate. Trumps's time has passed, Trump cannot beat any of top 20 democrats. His only hope for relation is to run against #21 ... #30 would be better.
AN MODERATE wrote:
It seems to me like the media and Washington pollsters are too caught up in Twitter and refuse to see what the ordinary Americans want in a candidate: an adult who can beat Trump.
Trump IS NOT an adult. He is a child.
